Re: Full of it / RE: (TV) Sour Grapes / Alternate Ver of Television's Founding?

[postitnote <postitnote@sbcglobal.net>]

Re: a new Television album...I'm not sure as to when this was written but
according to info over at Jimmy's myspace music page, he's been trying to get
that album finished up for awhile.  As much as I like Tom, I'd have to say, I
assume that he's the hold-up on that...but after hearing the interview it
sounds like things are finally progressing.  I wish Jimmy would update us on
that.  Does anyone know if he answers questions on facebook or anything?

And for me personally I love what Tom and Jimmy do together live.  They work
together beautifully and to hear many of Tom's songs done live w/ Jimmy they
seem to have developed them more over time from the versions on Tom's albums. 
Some mention "Clear it Away"as an example,,,there are many others, that to me,
are so much freer and more amazing live.

I wonder what Richard will have to say when a new Television album comes out,
I'm sure he'll comment on it.

D.

--- On Mon, 7/25/11, Phil Obbard <pobbard@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Phil Obbard <pobbard@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Full of it / RE: (TV) Sour Grapes / Alternate Ver of
Television's Founding?
To: "tv@obbard.com" <tv@obbard.com>
Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:51 AM

My quick thoughts on Rex's great post:

I would like a new Television album
with the MK2 line-up. But we'll be lucky to get any "Television" album, even
with the MK3 line-up. You may not consider Television minus Richard Lloyd to
be Television. Fair enough. But even then, I'd be happy to get a Verlaine
solo
album with Jimmy, Fred, and Billy playing on it. I agree that the band seemed
at-ease in the Brazil MTV interview. Anyway, I love Verlaine's first solo LP
as much or more than ADVENTURE or the 1992 LP; I probably feel the same way
about FLASH LIGHT; I may prefer the next Television album over some of the
earlier ones. Who knows? I hope it becomes a reality.


As for Lloyd's public
airing of grievances... he's put a lot of his life into this band and it must
irk him to see it continue without him. I'm sure there is lots and lots of
baggage between Tom and Richard, and clearly Richard wants to vent about it.
On the other hand, I've never really recovered from seeing Richard totally
unhinged in Boston in 2009 (it was so unhinged, I left the show early -- I
never would have thought I'd do that at any Television-related event) and I
think he's really struggled the last few years at self-control. I hope he's
feeling better, and that his recent FB posts are just bravado or genuine
anger
or unhappiness, but more than anything I just hope they aren't a sign of
ongoing health issues for Richard. Sometimes it's hard to tell.

--Phil
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From: Rex Broome <rexbroome@gmail.com>
To:
tv@obbard.com
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: Full of it /
RE: (TV) Sour Grapes / Alternate Ver of  Television's Founding?

On Mon, Jul
25, 2011 at 4:46 AM, Murray Ramone <murrayramone@hotmail.com>wrote:

> for me
television are bigger than the sum of their parts, they bring out
> the
> best
in each other.
> I'd like to hear an album with Jimmy Ripp on it, but my
expectations are
> low.
> Not because he's a bad guitarist or anything, just
because he's a
> "musician"
> and he's playing television style rather than
just playing (as in having
> fun,
> being playful)
>

Maybe... but judging
from the evidence at hand, he's having more fun than
Richard was for quite
some time, and the other guys seem to be as well.
Actually, Jimmy has played
with Tom enough that I don't think you can just
say he plays "Television
style"; he has his own unique rapport with Tom.
It's just not as much on
display when the set consists mostly of Television
material.  If T4 comes out
and they tour behind it, we'll soo more of Jimmy
being Jimmy.  (I would prefer
to see the new band sub in a few choice Tom
solo songs, like "Clear It Away"
or "Walker", instead of the millionth
airing of "Friction", but that's
probably just me).


>
> Lloyd is one of these rare things - a guy who can
play in any style, but
> can
> still sound like himself


Agreed, that being
why he's one of the few "utility" players to make my top
guitarists list.
Maybe Quine qualifies as well; I'd have to think about
that.
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