Re: (TV) Amazon.com

[eric s gregory <esgregory@uswest.net>]

michael,
corporations in toto are thoroughly destroying the life
fabric of america & the rest of the world...politics have
become (if they were ever anything else) one of many
corporate appendages designed to further profit/power
advantage(s)....unionization/boycotts/actual physical
destruction (look at how effective the seattle protests were
in their own small way) are all we've got left....
i say fuck em & fuck em & fuck em till there's nothing
left....

Michael wrote:
> 
>     I don't get it with Amazon.com. They've been killing all of the small
> businesses(myself included) to the point of either going out of business of
> filing bankruptcy. This was their plan was it not, to lose or not make money
> the first five years and just steal all the customers that it could from
> every hard working independent American shop and just have one massive one
> line mail order service? Fortunately for me I still sell alot of vinyl and
> assorted ephemera so I've manage to keep my head just above water, barely.
> Now they want to screw over their employees. Why doesn't someone blow up
> Amazon's web site? I cannot tell you how they've spoiled the buyer by
> sending out orders in 24 hours. For stores like mine it's not possible to
> have that kind of turn around time. So when people do not have their
> merchandise within 48 to 72 hours they want to know where it is. I usually
> tell people if you want that kind of service then perhaps you should try to
> find this item at Amazon. As crass as this may sound I just cannot compete
> with that sort of service or even their prices. Case in point, when
> Beefheart's "Grow Fins" set came out I paid $64.00 wholesale(not including
> shipping and COD fees). My web site had just gone up so I thought well
> rather than charge the usual 30 to 35% markup I'll sell then for $74.99 just
> to attract some kinda business. Then I find out that ol' Amazon's charging
> $67.00, $3 above the wholesale price. Accoring to Revenant, no one got a
> price break whether you order 1 set or 1,000 the price is the same. That's
> when I knew I had to do something different. There's just no way to compete
> with these guys.
> 
>         What I want to know is what are they going to do when they've wiped
> out the vast majority of on-line mom & pop shops selling CD's and books. Are
> they all of a sudden going to raise their prices to the suggested retail
> value of $17.99 or $18.99 when alot of the mom & pop shops were sticking to
> the old 30% markup rule? How are the people who've supported Amazon all this
> time going to feel when they find that they've been had? Now that all of the
> reasonable on-line shops are gone you're now at the mercy of Amazon.com Has
> anyone given this any thought? Amazon just can't go on losing money like
> this without the whole concept crashing down on them. I can tell you from
> the prices that I've seen that there's no way in hell that they're even
> making a small profit especially with their overhead. How much longer do we
> have to wait until the real Amazon.com emerges? Anyone have any idea when
> their 5 year losing streak is up?
> 
>     I strongly support the employess of Amazon in their fight to get union
> representation. Then they won't feel so expendable which is probably how
> they feel right now without the union.
> 
>     I'd be curious to hear comments regarding those who support/don't
> support Amazon.
> 
>     Movin' on,
> 
>     M T C
> 
> > From: "J.Germaine" <jpg55@home.com>
> > Reply-To: tv@obbard.com
> > Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 19:21:30 -0800
> > To: <tv@obbard.com>
> > Subject: Re: (TV) Amazon.com
> >
> > Great idea!!
> > I just sent them a message using you next. I'll pass it on to my friends.
> > Jeffrey
> >
> >> From: "Nick Powell" <nick@powelln.freeserve.co.uk>
> >> Reply-To: tv@obbard.com
> >> Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 09:30:34 -0000
> >> To: <tv@obbard.com>
> >> Subject: (TV) Amazon.com
> >>
> >> Dear Amazon.com:
> >>
> >> I have been loyal customer of your company since its inception.  In the
> >> last few months alone I have spent more than $300 on your products and
> >> services.
> >>
> >> And thus I was very sad to read today in the New York Times that your
> >> company is undermining the attempts of your employees to unionize.  I
> >> believe that all workers have the right to organize, and if you cannot
> >> support this right, then I can no longer support your company.
> >>
> >> I refuse to by any products from Amazon.com until your employees have
> >> been allowed to choose a legal bargaining representative---without
> >> intimidation or harassment.  I will urge all of my friends and colleagues to
> >> do the
> >> same.
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >
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