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Re: (TV) old but new



"Stop you Sobbing" is  wonderful pop perfection!!

> From: Joe Hartley <jh@brainiac.com>
> Reply-To: tv@obbard.com
> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 13:14:19 -0500 (EST)
> To: tv@obbard.com
> Cc: tv@obbard.com
> Subject: Re: (TV) old but new
> 
> "J.Germaine" <jpg55@home.com> wrote:
>> How about:
>> "Sunny Afternoon"
>> "Shangrila"
>> "Big Sky"
>> "Tired of Waiting"
> 
> Despite my huge affection for the Kinks and their entire catalog, the
> only other song in their catalog that approaches that perfect 2'50" for
> me is Victoria.  Or possibly Stop Your Sobbing.  Why?  Beats the hell out
> of me.  If I were to analyze these songs to figure out what makes them
> the perfect pop songs, I fear I'd kill 'em in my mind.
> 
>>> From: Joe Hartley <jh@brainiac.com>
>>> "Lee Ritter" <poriver@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> And, yes, the Kinks had many masterpieces. One of my all time favorite
>>>> pop singles is 'waterloo sunset'.
>>> (snip...)
>>> 
>>> Possibly the single best song ever written.  I've gone hours in the car
>>> with that on repeat.  (It was a long trip, and I wasn't inflicting it on
>>> anyone else :)
> 
> One thing that occurs to me is that the vast majority of Kinks recordings
> still have an unfinished feel to them, like a demo.  Victoria seems to be
> the exception - extremely well- (but not over-) produced.  The opening
> gutar notes bouncing back and forth in the stereo space is f'ing brilliant.
> It's been years since my copy of VGPS was stolen, but I seem to recall
> that it alwasy sounded different than the rest of the Kinks' catalog.
> 
> There's a charm and seeming simplicity to most Kinks songs that makes
> anyone with a guitar think "I can do that!"  The simple strum of the
> acoustic guitar, the unprocessed harmony vocals, the beautiful, wistful
> melody - these make Waterloo Sunset instantly beguiling.  I have no idea
> how much time was spent in the studio on this, but it *sounds* like it
> was done as a framework for later work, and then was discovered that adding
> anything detracted from it.
> 
> I felt the same way about the Jam's "That's Entertainment."  The demo of
> that is vastly superior to the song as eventually released.  The decision
> to put the demo on the Snap! compilation was a great decision that's
> given me hours of enjoyment.
> 
> 
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