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Re: (TV) U-2 / Bunnymen / "The Verlaines" / It's Yonki Time!



hey leo, list...
i'd have to step in here & assert that the bunnymen up
to a point were a pretty damn great band (superior to
u2 in lotsa ways), tho yr right in that sergeant was
never the guitarist verlaine was/is...
still & all, the whole of the b-men's parts worked
quite well for a stretch of 5 yrs or so..(79-85)
i still play "crocodiles" regularly & tho it's been
said (by the b-men emselves) that tv was a big
influence, you can also hear love, the doors, dylan, &
1st wave britpunk in there, not to mention a huge
NUGGETS fixation...
as for the verlaines, they actually had a great early
single called "death & the maiden",...other stuff
paled....but to be fair, they named emselves after the
french poet, NOT tom verlaine...(tho what
playful/serious music obsessive wouldn't make the tv
connection)...
i say screw u2 & their
witless/cheap/feeble/sad/bullshit attempts to remain
hip.....they've had their moments, but christ GIMME
the ROLLING STONES for old guys still at it...
bono's become a 1st class pandering chump...like a
pimp for leering old men.
--- "Casey, Leo J" <CaseyL@VOLPE.DOT.GOV> wrote:
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> 
> I remember many years ago when the arc of 
> Echo and the Bunnymen's career was heading
> downward and U-2's popularity had rocketed 
> past theirs.  Bunnymen Ian McCullough and 
> Will Sergeant[(sp?] in an interview showed 
> their total jealousy (which they tried---but failed
> ---to disguise as simple loathing for U-2's music).
> 
> I had previously investigated Echo and the 
> Bunnymen's' music as they were compared by 
> several 80s' critics as having been influenced or 
> having a guitar sound akin to Television.  I was 
> sadly disappointed after I bought them, and have
> since sold them all (except for a guilty pleasure---
> a copy Ian McCullough's 1986 solo album for its
> sickening sweet song "Just Like Sugar", but with
> some nice? guitar work).  My girlfriend (who had 
> actually seen the Bunnymen (and Verlaine 
> many times) live, asserted that Will Sergeant
> was equal if not superior to Verlaine as a
> guitarist.
> We broke up not over this remark, but I remember
> thinking that judgement of hers was foolish in the 
> extreme. 
> 
> On another topic:  I have always been slightly
> puzzled at the MM List members (including 
> the MM Archives pre-my joining, which I once
> read over a one-week span) neglecting to 
> mention/comment on the late 80s-90s' group, 
> "The Verlaines".  I also checked out a couple of 
> their records and thought they were awful; maybe
> that's why no one ever mentioned them on the 
> MM list?
> 


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