(TV) Don't Want This To Get Personal / This Case Is Not Closed

["Casey, Leo J" <Leo.J.Casey@Volpe.dot.gov>]

Per,

I'm puzzled why you wrote this:
>as a guitar player I don't think it's more difficult 
>for me to hear the difference between RL and TV, than it ....

I never said or meant to imply that it's more difficult 
for you ---or anyone else on List----to hear 
detect/differences. Not sure why you interpreted it that 
way.  I'm not saying my ears are golden.  

>for a MM-list member to directly understand who has 
>written >the mail I'm replying to and my own one 
>in lousy English.

That's too convoluted for me to get, but if you're 
saying I write lousy English--I'll agree.

> ...,but **everything** you're 

Everything? That's a little harsh don't you think?

> ...just speculations ...despite I'm sure you're 
>wrong in most of the cases. 

I'm curious--what cases (if any) do we agree on?

I don't want this to become a personal thing 
between you and me (or for there to be any hard 
feelings). So there's a large part of me that 
wants to just drop this whole 'debate'.  

But when you write something as strong as 
>but everything you're writing is just speculations...
it's more than a little insulting. (Could it be 
that you feel that since you are the one who is 
the musician, your opinions/generalizations on 
who does which parts or particular solos must 
be right? (Probably you don't.)

Also--grant me a little a bit of credibility: 
I have attended some live shows:  about 15 Verlaine shows 
in the 1980s (and one in 2001), and about 10 Television 
shows since 2001. 

But---I would say the primary/strongest source for my 
belief on the parts/solos topic---and not sure I should 
say this here (but can't remember if you're on the 
'other' List) is that I have (carefully) listened to 
(more than once) way, way too many live shows (it's 
larger than 130).  [**I'm not trying to boast  
here---it's more a little crazy and embarassing than 
anything].  So, I don't think it's ignorance or bad 
memory or sheer speculation that's deluding me into 
claiming that there have been occasions (granted not very many) 
where Tom has played some of Richard's parts or vice-versa.

But you say, that doesn't't prove anything, all it shows is 
that you've been mistaken about this often, and your  
ears (and eyes), memory are consistently confusing 
what really was played. 

I've been wrong many times before just a few 
examples of many: I was the guyn who I once claimed 
T.V was under 6' tall!;   I completely fell for Tom's 
fake story in 1992 interview regarding "1880 Or So" 
being chosen in 1992 as the album's the 
best song by a 'focus group' consisting of all his 
friends' children; I even fell for his fictional 
Professor Turtle[?] from Louisiana in an interview; 
and that T.V. he was born in the Town of 'M';.

>Give us some PROOF!!!

As I might have mentioned it's ironic that just when 
there's a question (specifically your challenge) that 
I'd like to seek my teeth into (and waste my time on 
:>) ) I am drowning in work at my job. 

But I like investigating Television minutiae, or job-wise 
stuff, or who really wrote that screenplay, etc.  It's 
often fun like being a detective on the trail of trying 
to solve a crime (It also helps keep my reading about my 
President down to a minimum ). And as far as proving 
things that's kinda what they pay me to do.

But besides being extremely busy right now (and in near 
future), there's the *practicality* of the whole thing.  
A fair amount of time has passed since I first heard 
specific instances of the switching of solos/parts.  
I'd have to try to find them as definitive proof all 
over again.  Am I actually willing to listen to every 
live recording that I know of "Call Mr. Lee","Rhyme", 
"1880 Or So" (and maybe even others)?  (Of course, I 
could always do this Herculean task of comparing licks 
as an excuse for procrastinating at work.)

So, let's say that there is an 80% chance that you are 
correct and a 20% chance I'm all wet on this.
[But to be clear, I was/am never claiming the place/slot 
where Richard's *song-ending solo* on "Call Mr. Lee" 
occurs is where T.V. more than once played a solo that 
sounded like 
Richard's.) 

It wouldn't't surprise if someone contacted Richard 
and he said you were totally right (or Dennis were to 
weigh-in and say he's certain I'm mistaken).  I almost 
hope they do so I won't be tempted to prove 
otherwise.  :>)

	Leo


-----Original Message-----
From: tv-owner@obbard.com On Behalf Of Per
Rosin
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:16 PM
To: tv@obbard.com
Subject: Re: (TV) RE: Accidentially Hit the Send Button / Who Plays What
When / To m's vs Richard's Tone


As a guitarplayer I don't think it's more difficult for me to hear the 
difference between RL and TV, than it is for a MM-list member to directly 
understand who has written the mail I'm replying to and my own one in lousy 
English. You have to excuse me Leo, but everything you're writing is just 
speculations. Therefore I will not argue against you, despite I'm sure 
you're wrong in most of the cases. Give us some PROOF!!!
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