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RE: (TV) Alleged Boot of Television's 1st ever show at CBGB / New Book's details on Gabriel fans & Television
was this tape part of the haul that hell sold to the university ? It wouldnt
surprise me if they recorded their first gig
> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:00:01 -0800
> From: pobbard@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: (TV) Alleged Boot of Television's 1st ever show at CBGB / New
Book's details on Gabriel fans & Television
> To: tv@obbard.com
>
> This is interesting, but I have never, ever heard of a recording of the
March
> 31, 1974 show in circulation. Perhaps the author has access to an unknown
> cache of tapes, or perhaps he is mistaken/mislead... lots of
poorly-labelled
> tapes floating around out there!
>
> --Phil
>
>
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> From: Leo Casey <LeoCasey@comcast.net>
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> Sent: Tuesday,
> November 29, 2011 11:32 AM
> Subject: (TV) Alleged Boot of Television's 1st ever
> show at CBGB / New Book's details on Gabriel fans & Television
>
> I know
> technically we're not supposed to discuss bootlegs on this List, but
> my
> question is in the context of does a bootleg of Television's first ever
> CBGB
> show on March 31, 1974 really exist, but NOT how to get a copy. I am
> very
> skeptical ; why wouldn't it have surfaced years ago or by now?
>
>
>
> It's
> discussed in a new book which Glen Copper posted on last week (and
> which I
> just finished. I'd give it a B+) titled Love Goes To Buildings On
> Fire: 5
> Years in New York That Changed Music Forever" ( by Will Hermes). I
> typed up
> most of the sections that discuss Television below. The March 31,
> 1974
> bootleg claim is in paragraph 3, p. 68.
>
>
>
>
>
> p.230: In March, the band was
> back on stage at CBGB. But now the audience
> was full of famous people who'd
> come down to the Bowery by town car. At one
> set, Linda Ronstadt, Paul Simon,
> and Peter Gabriel showed up. Champagne was
> sent to the 'dressing room', a
> six-by-nine storage space of graffitied
> plywood and plasterboard. Gabriel was
> smitten, and invited the band to be
> the openers for hid debut solo U.S. tour.
> The accepted. The catch: the
> tour started in a few days. In many cases, it
> was too late to advertise the
> band in advance, so Television faced a crowd of
> Genesis fanatics expecting a
> whole night of their hero Gabriel, who had
> recently left the band.
>
>
>
> For all the musical kinship between the bands, the
> upshot of the pairing was
> inescapable: it was a showdown between punk and
> prog rock. Even the
> hometown show at the Palladium was a battleground. I'd
> woken up at dawn to
> wait outside the Ticketron outlet at Macy's on Queen's
> Boulevard and scored
> fourth row seats---the best I'd ever had for a show.
> The band came out to
> scattered applause and a chant of "GAY-BREE-ELLLL" that
> persisted throughout
> the set. Verlaine looked all business; Lloyd smirked
> tightly. Verlaine
> started into the tick-tock rhythm of 'Prove It, spitting
> out the title
> refrain amid guitar spirals like he was arguing with the crowd,
> taunting
> them, yelping "Just the facts!" like Dylan shouting "I don't believe
> you,
> you're a liar!" to a heckler at Manchester Free Trade Hall in 1966 before
> tearing into 'Like A Rolling Stone'. 'Venus' was violent and spiky, more
> George Braque than Alexandros of Antioch, 'Marquee Moon' was accelerated
but
> incandescent, notes stabbing like knives, then twisting to open the wound
> wider. The crowd, fans of Gabriel's theatrics with Genesis, was
unimpressed
> with the four guys who pretty much just stood onstage, unsmiling, playing
> their instruments. The boos and chants competed with the cheers and
finally
> overwhelmed them.. Verlaine flipped off the crowd with his spindly middle
> finger and left the stage.
>
>
>
> Television headed off for their debut U.K.
> tour, followed by Blondie, who
> were the opening act. There was no love lost
> between the groups.
> Television were surly and standoffish. On top of it all,
> Chris Stein and
> Debbie Harry had to see their former bassist, Fred Smith, whom
> Television
> had poached two years prior. At one point, Richard Lloyd and
> Blondie's
> keyboardist, Jimmy Destri, got into a fistfight.
>
>
>
> p. 68:
> Television played there [CBGB] on Sunday, March 31. ...The set was
> sloppy but
> intense and, at moments, stunning. Hell's 'Love Comes In Spurts'
> dated back
> to the Neon Boys ; 'Venus, 'I Don't Care', and 'Eat The Light
> were new. So
> was 'Blank Generation', a song that on a bootleg recording of
> that night,
> Can't seem to decide what it wants to be. Hell's vocals are
> pinched ,
> inflamed, not fucking around: "I belong to the blank generation",
> he sneers,
> "I can take it or leave it each time.". Ficca's drums lumber
> behind, while
> guitars careen: chattering, squealing, sputtering, following
> a shifty melody
> that at one point resembles 'Big Spender', the campy come-on
> from Sweet
> Charity best known at the time as the soundtrack to a Muriel
> cigar
> commercial. The guitarists sound like they're goofing, except when
> lines
> occasionally synch and bloom like fireworks.
>
>
>
> p. 229: Television's Marquee
> Moon was released by Elektra Records on
> February 8 . To celebrate the album's
> completion, Verlaine treated himself
> to a London vacation, his first ever
> visit. At a Notting Hill Gate
> newsstand, he saw the February 5 issue of NME
> with his band on the cover.
> The review was a two-page spread. The critic Nick
> Kent called it "a
> 24-carat inspired work of pure genius.". Notwithstanding
> the U.K. Music
> press hyperbole, this was deserved praise.
>
>
>
> Figuring he
> should maybe call up the London office of Elektra, which had no
> clue he was in
> town, Verlaine found them startled that he'd been there all
> week, sightseeing
> by himself and chain-smoking (he had a two pack a day
> habit) when he could
> have been doing press to promote the record.
>
>
>
> Back in the States, meanwhile,
> Television's debut was apparently no big
> priority for Elektra. One can
> imagine the meetings. What the hell is this
> record? Punk rock? With guitar
> solos and ten-minute songs? Art rock? With
> no synthesizers or oversized drum
> kits? Why is the band called Television,
> anyway?
>
>
>
> p. 67: Hell and Verlaine
> settled on the name because they both hated the
> medium and they figured they
> could be a living, breathing alternative to it.
> They thought they could "tell
> a vision". And though he didn't crow about
> it, Verlaine thought it fit nicely
> with his initials.
>
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> New book. Looks good.
>
> Glenn C.
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