Re: (TV) Rush To Judgment / Radiohead

[Micah <noahbrtn@yahoo.com>]

Let me add to this just a bit: All those bands you mentioned at the end of you note: I bet everyone of those MF'ing "Country" artists we have jammed down our gullets from Truck Commercials to KFC all grew up listening to that crap.

As for those Rush mugs? I loved it when the idiot would pine "But, dude....listen to the lyrics!: Go chase a bee.

M.


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From: andy fekete <andy.fekete@gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 3:41:23 PM
Subject: Re: (TV) Rush To Judgment / Radiohead

For me, Rush was an important contributor to the disillusionment in
rock music that eventually led me to punk in the 70s.

I mean, I was a perfect candidate for Rush fandom: young, white,
middle-class, male, a typical denizen of suburban America with a
stereo, disposable income and a large album collection dominated by
mainstream bands with a proggy bent (Yes, ELP, King Crimson, etc).  I
was so squarely in Rush's target audience it wasn't funny.

So I saw Rush -- twice, actually: once for curiosity and a second time
to be certain. Both times I came away with the opinion that Rush's
live shows were even more bombastic and overwrought than their
records.  These were disturbing "the emperor has no clothes" moments
for me, as I was really, really into FM AOR music. Both times I ended
up being the lone (and quite unpopular) dissenter in a carfull of
heavy metal parking lot party people.   I just couldn't see why I had
to play along with the band's rock-star posturing, nor with the
crowd's willingness to believe that they were indeed witnessing a
significant band creating significant music: it seemed obvious to me
that any significance was purely a function of the crowd's dearly
wishing it to be so, having paid so much to be there, and of the
band's clearly calculated onstage histrionics.

Never got over that.  Even today, Rush's music, like Journey's,
Styx's, Kansas's and many others, still makes me grit my teeth.
Irrational, I know.

-A

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Russ <russvr@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't have much time to type this morning ,but I could go on a lot on this
> subject. Let me just say that RUSH is one of the most talented three
> musicians ever to record in the rock idiom. They're not punk, not hip (since
> about 1977), but they have always been cool. I would controversially
> conjecture that bands like Husker Du (All you have to do listen to
> "Celebrated Summer" to hear Rush influence)  were as much influenced by RUSH
> as they were influenced by The Ramones.
> -Russ
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Leo Casey <leocasey@comcast.net> wrote:
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>> I thought this was extremely funny even though it's (note the apostrophe)
>> short and
>> I'm not familar with a single note of the band's 35+ year output.
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>> "Prog Bites, Eight Completely Awesome Rush Moments [The Boston Phoenix]  By
>> http://thephoenix.com//Boston/Music/62876-Prog-bites/
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>> More serious but worth reading is this interesting interview:
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>> http://thephoenix.com/Boston/Music/62874-Rush-survive-40-years-on-rocks-very-edge/
>> A few excerpts (I like the Radiohead example):
>>
>> "Rush are one of rock's most quietly enduring success stories: 40 years
>> later, the
>> Canadian trio's rabid fan base and enduring legacy continue to frustrate
>> those who'd
>> like to pretend that '70s prog never existed. ... Geddy thinks that the
>> whole "prog
>> is a four-letter word" stigma is all smoke and mirrors. "
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>> " 'Look at a band like Radiohead:  they are a big-themed band, and they're
>> kind of
>> the leader in the current prog-rock parade, in my opinion. They are
>> probably loved by
>> a lot of people who don't like 'prog rock,' ****because they have an image
>> that makes
>> them acceptable, a grooviness that supersedes their music. And I think
>> that's part
>> and parcel with acceptance of certain bands: if they have a groovy buzz,
>> then it
>> almost makes what they are doing musically acceptable by association**. I
>> think it's
>> a lot about a time and a place, more than the actual music that they're
>> playing.' "
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>> name of winmail.dat]
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