Re: (TV) 2 cents on Rap/dissing Richard.

["SCOTT ALDRICH" <scott.aldrich@worldnet.att.net>]

I amend that, Beautifully put about Hell as a rock and roller is the shit. I
can't say anything about Hell as a writer, I've never read any, but he's a
pretty excellent rock and roll lyricist!
Scott

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>From: "SCOTT ALDRICH" <scott.aldrich@worldnet.att.net>
>To: tv@obbard.com
>Subject: Re: (TV) 2 cents on Rap/dissing Richard.
>Date: Mon, Jan 10, 2000, 10:33 PM
>

> beautifully put.
>
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>>From: Eric Gregory <egregory@standard.com>
>>To: "'tv@obbard.com'" <tv@obbard.com>
>>Subject: RE: (TV) 2 cents on Rap/dissing Richard.
>>Date: Mon, Jan 10, 2000, 1:52 PM
>>
>
>> i dig what yr saying in re: junkies & hell seems to be pretty honest with
>> what junk did to his trajectory.
>> & to be perfectly blunt, based on "go now" & "the voidoid", i'd say hell's
>> an awfully mediocre novelist.
>> & his poetry's only slightly better.
>> however, as a rock & roller, he's the shit.
>> great songs, great phrasing, great look.
>> i don't need to go into the ramifications & importance of "style" in rock &
>> roll (i'm a little sick of the postmodernist huffing & puffing that poses as
>> rock crit these days), but hell had a look & he created it, lived it, sang
>> it, made it his life.
>> & the "look" was just as important to yr vaunted jazz scene (particularly
>> bebop).
>> the smack was an obnoxious & boring detour & perhaps it derailed hell for
>> good, but i know that BLANK GENERATION, "don't die" & yeah, even DESTINY
>> STREET, all contributed to what i am today & they sure as shit showed me
>> that writers who were tired of the publishing/spoken word scene could make
>> their words fucking explode.
>>
>> & from where i stand, verlaine needs a cat like hell to loosen his sphincter
>> a bit.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jpg [mailto:jpg@sirius.com]
>> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 10:47 AM
>> To: tv@obbard.com
>> Subject: Re: (TV) 2 cents on Rap/dissing Richard.
>>
>>
>> Perhaps I was a little closer to the scene.  Let me be blunt. I see no
>> genius
>> in being a junkie. The scene was riddled with junkie poseurs. In other words
>> they were spending more time getting high than working on their art or
>> craft.
>> To this day I can't help but " see through" what others may consider art or
>> genius. I believe there is some a world of difference between an artiste and
>> an
>> artist. Hell, Thunders, etc. were merely acting out. Had they really worked
>> at
>> their craft perhaps their art would have matured.
>> Hell to me symbolizes more nostalgia.
>> On the other hand I feel Verlaine is still growing.
>>
>> Eric Gregory wrote:
>>
>>> i think the "substance" obviously came in the words & maybe not so
>> obviously
>>> with his delivery.
>>> i certainly don't begrudge you yr opinion.
>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jpg [mailto:jpg@sirius.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 8:56 AM
>>> To: tv@obbard.com
>>> Subject: Re: (TV) 2 cents on Rap/dissing Richard.
>>>
>>> With all due respect I did listen to him. Like you said he had style at
>> the
>>> expense of substance. But at some point there has to be substance.
>>>
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