Re: (TV) LAUGHNER

["MICHAEL CARLUCCI" <subterraneannyc@mindspring.com>]

    Tell me about egos. I had more problems with whatever the owners name is
again. Thor L. let's say. He would continously bounce checks on me, order
CD's
then not pay for them so that I'd end up selling them at cost, hold CD's for
weeks at a time and then not take them because he couldn't afford them. All
he had to say was business is not that good I can't order anything. But his
ego would not allow this kind of admittance. He supposedly had a great deal
worked out with Capitol Records, Polygram records and blew them both. What a
shame 
because they were heading in the right direction. Especially when they did
the
Curt Kobain & William Burroughs "The Priest They Call Him". I can imagiine
that they
sold well over 100,000 copies of a recording that probably cost no mmore
than $1,000
if that to make. I can't say that I'll miss them, they were putting out real
drivel
toward the end. And I'm sure luck was not on theuir side either as the whole

Alternative market withered and died so too it's alternative/indie labels
went too.
Can the demise of Matador be far behind as they grope at straws trying to
sign and
promote new Rap artists. A case of too little too late. It's a bit scary,
but who knows
where music will take us next now that R & R has pretty much fallen off the
charts
with Pop music flooding the airwaves. It's 1962 all over again, but can R &
R make
another strong come back after such a blow? M T C
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>From: Eric Gregory <egregory@standard.com>
>To: "'tv@obbard.com'" <tv@obbard.com>
>Subject: RE: (TV) LAUGHNER
>Date: Thu, Jan 13, 2000, 6:10 PM
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>>>BTW, did TK Records really go out of business? I did order from those
>>>guys
>>>but haven't in a long while.
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>yeah, they did...kind of amusing story involving inflated egos, poor taste &
>some BAD corporate dealings...
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: MICHAEL CARLUCCI [mailto:subterraneannyc@mindspring.com]
>Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 2:29 PM
>To: tv@obbard.com
>Subject: Re: (TV) LAUGHNER
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>>From: jpontrelli@nallmiller.com
>>To: TV@obbard.com
>>Subject: (TV) LAUGHNER
>>Date: Thu, Jan 13, 2000, 2:18 PM
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>>Is there any known or rumored early TV recordings featuring Peter Laughner 
>>on guitar?  He reportedly played with them for a short time when Lloyd 
>>quit, left or soemthing.
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>    To my knowledge there are no TV tapes with Laughner. There is a tape
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>a place called Picadilly from Ohio in '75 where Laughner was rumoured to
>have
>played on. I can't hear him if he is. Sounds like Lloyd throughout.
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>>For those of you who have never heard of (or heard) Laughner, he is very 
>>important to a Television fan, I would say more important than the VU. 
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>    Were it not for the Velvet Underground there would be no Pere Ubu or 
>Laughner for that matter. I like what Laughner did, and agree that he was
>of significant importance but he ain't no V.U. era Lou Reed who in my own 
>opinion was pure genius, which ain't a word that I like
>to throw around lightly. Sometimes I/we might forget just how brilliant Lou
>and V.U. were, just one listen to the first 4 LP's usually puts it back into
>perspective. V.U. opened up all kindsa doors for the bands who followed in
>their footsteps and Laughner and Pere Ubu were one of them as well as the
>Eels and
>the Mirrors. All of those guys were huge VU and Beefheart fans. M T C       
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>    BTW, did TK Records really go out of business? I did order from those
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>but haven't in a long while.                                                
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