Re: (TV) LAUGHNER

[Noah Lopez <noahl@U.Arizona.EDU>]

I've wondered the same thing with Matador, starting when
they seemed to be investing much of their resource and
releasing power behind foreign bands, hoping to...??? At the
same time, their bread and butter bands (like Jon Spencer
and Pavement) continued to dwindle off into the ether, sales
and quality-wise.

Its all a little sad.

Noah

On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, MICHAEL CARLUCCI wrote:

>     Tell me about egos. I had more problems with whatever the owners name is
> again. Thor L. let's say. He would continously bounce checks on me, order
> CD's
> then not pay for them so that I'd end up selling them at cost, hold CD's for
> weeks at a time and then not take them because he couldn't afford them. All
> he had to say was business is not that good I can't order anything. But his
> ego would not allow this kind of admittance. He supposedly had a great deal
> worked out with Capitol Records, Polygram records and blew them both. What a
> shame 
> because they were heading in the right direction. Especially when they did
> the
> Curt Kobain & William Burroughs "The Priest They Call Him". I can imagiine
> that they
> sold well over 100,000 copies of a recording that probably cost no mmore
> than $1,000
> if that to make. I can't say that I'll miss them, they were putting out real
> drivel
> toward the end. And I'm sure luck was not on theuir side either as the whole
> 
> Alternative market withered and died so too it's alternative/indie labels
> went too.
> Can the demise of Matador be far behind as they grope at straws trying to
> sign and
> promote new Rap artists. A case of too little too late. It's a bit scary,
> but who knows
> where music will take us next now that R & R has pretty much fallen off the
> charts
> with Pop music flooding the airwaves. It's 1962 all over again, but can R &
> R make
> another strong come back after such a blow? M T C
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> >From: Eric Gregory <egregory@standard.com>
> >To: "'tv@obbard.com'" <tv@obbard.com>
> >Subject: RE: (TV) LAUGHNER
> >Date: Thu, Jan 13, 2000, 6:10 PM
> >
> 
> >>>BTW, did TK Records really go out of business? I did order from those
> >>>guys
> >>>but haven't in a long while.
> >
> >
> >
> >yeah, they did...kind of amusing story involving inflated egos, poor taste &
> >some BAD corporate dealings...
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: MICHAEL CARLUCCI [mailto:subterraneannyc@mindspring.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 2:29 PM
> >To: tv@obbard.com
> >Subject: Re: (TV) LAUGHNER
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> >>From: jpontrelli@nallmiller.com
> >>To: TV@obbard.com
> >>Subject: (TV) LAUGHNER
> >>Date: Thu, Jan 13, 2000, 2:18 PM
> >>
> >
> >>Is there any known or rumored early TV recordings featuring Peter Laughner 
> >>on guitar?  He reportedly played with them for a short time when Lloyd 
> >>quit, left or soemthing.
> >>
> >
> >    To my knowledge there are no TV tapes with Laughner. There is a tape
> >from
> >a place called Picadilly from Ohio in '75 where Laughner was rumoured to
> >have
> >played on. I can't hear him if he is. Sounds like Lloyd throughout.
> >
> >>For those of you who have never heard of (or heard) Laughner, he is very 
> >>important to a Television fan, I would say more important than the VU. 
> >
> >    Were it not for the Velvet Underground there would be no Pere Ubu or 
> >Laughner for that matter. I like what Laughner did, and agree that he was
> >of significant importance but he ain't no V.U. era Lou Reed who in my own 
> >opinion was pure genius, which ain't a word that I like
> >to throw around lightly. Sometimes I/we might forget just how brilliant Lou
> >and V.U. were, just one listen to the first 4 LP's usually puts it back into
> >perspective. V.U. opened up all kindsa doors for the bands who followed in
> >their footsteps and Laughner and Pere Ubu were one of them as well as the
> >Eels and
> >the Mirrors. All of those guys were huge VU and Beefheart fans. M T C       
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> >    BTW, did TK Records really go out of business? I did order from those
> >guys
> >but haven't in a long while.                                                
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