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Re: (TV) Hell v. Lloyd



Tell the Truth!! Right On!!

Cliff McLenehan wrote:

> > designed, and his own clothes which he designed that largely influenced
> > the British Punk Rock Movement.
>
> Sorry Michael, but I don't really agree with you there. I think this
> idea largely comes from Malcolm McLaren overstating his own
> importance in relation to the Dolls, the Sex Pistols and UK punk
> and to Richard Hell overstating his own importance.
>
> There was a British TV documentary on punk a few years back
> where Richard made this claim, followed by a neat edit to John
> Lydon's riposte, which was basically "What a load of hogwash ... "
> followed by the usual Lydon tirade.
>
> If you look at pictures of the Bromley Contingent, the original Sex
> Pistols fans, of which I was on the fringes, you'll see we took our
> ideas mainly from glam rock, gay and tranvestite fashion, rubber
> and fetish wear, the film Cabaret and so on. Everybody had their
> own look.
>
> New York, and what Richard Hell supposedly invented, (torn
> clothes and safety pins?) never came into it. As far as I remember
> we knew virtually nothing about New York and cared even less.
>
> Apart from the Dolls we hadn't heard any music. Nor had we seen
> many photos. A couple in the NME maybe. And for the major part
> we didn't buy clothes from Malcom's shop. They were too bloody
> expensive. Though it was always worth trying to steal something.
>
> I'm not trying to start a NY vs London war, nor put Hell down, but
> the influence of NY on London was minimal to the point of being
> non-existent. I think we developed in our own little vacumn with our
> peculiar British reference points. Which is also why the music
> sounds completely different.
>
> Cliff
>
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