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(TV) Welcome to the club/"those great plains"/Drudgery
It never occurred to me that the Waterloo in "Postcard from Waterloo" was anyplace but where Napoleon fell (there's that line in the song about "those great plains" , which I believe are part of the Waterloo topography [MM list historians forgive me if I'm butchering this].
I always connected the song "Stalingrad" to the WWII battle between the Nazis and the Russians---I thought the song's title might have had something to do with TV's great grandfather's original Latvian family name being something on the order of "Millaren-Schenkov" not Miller, but given Ms Secret X's recent comment about her and the song's Mona (and Temp agency drudgery) what the hell do I know?
Last but not least, Jeremy S. says: "Don't take all the creidt Leo. I've posted on this subject before - I think
Stalingrad is really trite." Credit smedit----, Jeremy, stand up and take a bow, and welcome to the bad guys club.
Leo
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Sheerin [mailto:Mark.Sheerin@ehsrealtime.com]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 3:23 PM
To: 'tv@obbard.com'
Subject: RE: (TV) Another Bad Guy - Stalingrad
In a similar way, I always associated Postcard from Waterloo with a one way
ticket on Eurostar, because then it would be time to say 'adieu'. Never
thought of the battle. History's not my strong point either.
Incidentally, when Tom was at Camber Sands I wonder if it occured to him
that he was a mere ten minutes from Ashford from where it is a mere twenty
minutes to Calais! My guess is not.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Burns [mailto:bburns@laplaza.org]
Sent: 27 April 2001 20:12
To: tv@obbard.com
Subject: Re: (TV) Another Bad Guy - Stalingrad
I remember going from London to Paris via Calais and it took about 5
hours to get to Calais, so in my mind it was an oblique reference to
London, but I suppose it could be any number of places. I would have
liked Stalingrad better if I had known about the metro station - I
could never get anything out of those lyrics (what? WWII?)
Brian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Sheerin" <Mark.Sheerin@ehsrealtime.com>
To: <tv@obbard.com>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:54 PM
Subject: RE: (TV) Another Bad Guy - Stalingrad
> I always thought Stalingrad was about the metro station in Paris and
i
> always liked it for that reason. Now i learn it's just a figure of
> speech...it's spoiled the song for me a little.
>
> I'd grouped Stalingrad with Postcard from Waterloo (station in
London) and 5
> hrs from Calais (French port).
>
> Feeling very literal minded,
> Mark
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremy Smith [mailto:jeremy_ni_smith@hotmail.com]
> Sent: 27 April 2001 19:54
> To: tv@obbard.com
> Subject: Re: (TV) Another Bad Guy - Stalingrad
>
>
> Don't take all the creidt Leo. I've posted on this subject before -
I think
> Stalingrad is really trite.
>
> Like
>
> Tom Verlaine
> Words from the front
> Warm and Cool
>
> Don't Care
>
> Dreamtime
> Flashlight
>
> Dislike
>
> Cover
> The wonder
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Casey, Leo J" <CaseyL@VOLPE.DOT.GOV>
> To: <tv@obbard.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 5:34 PM
> Subject: (TV) Another Bad Guy
>
>
> > Maurice said, "But I'll own up to being a bad man, and to being
not so
> fond of _The Wonder_, either. (I'm probably the guy who didn't like
the
> lyrics of "Stalingrad," either. Sorry, folks.) "
> >
> > I know it's one of Howard's favorite songs (or riffs), but I agree
with
> Maurice 100% on both The Wonder and Stalingrad. So that makes two
bad
> guys.
> >
> >
> > Leo
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Maurice Rickard [mailto:maurice@mac.com]
> > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:05 PM
> > To: tv@obbard.com
> > Subject: Re: (TV) current # of MMooners
> >
> >
> > Like Martin, I tried to send a reply to this thread that seems not
to
> > have made it. Apologies for the repeats, if any:
> >
> > At 7:03 PM +0100 4/26/01, dudley wrote:
> > >> At 6:53 PM +0100 4/26/01, dudley wrote:
> > >> >the new year - newness ends (touch and go) www.southern.net
> >
> > To which I gave my unpopular opinion that I didn't much like it,
and
> > Dudley said:
> >
> > >oh, you bad man 8)
> > >
> > >i think it's a wonderful record, and much better than anything
bedhead
> had
> > >managed over their course.
> >
> > I think I didn't like it as someone who *loved* _Transaction de
> > Novo_. It was a mighty achievement, indeed--the chiming quality
of
> > "More than Ever," the narcotic restraint alternating with guitar
> > explosions in "Parade"...I could go on. But the vocals worked so
> > well buried in the mix with the Bedhead stuff, and...I just didn't
> > dig the more vocal-to-the-front style going on here, particularly
> > with the lyrics this time out. (The "now I'm lying in the fetal
> > position/I wish I'd never become a musician" rhyme on one
> > track...was, shall we say, the weak link.)
> >
> > Nonetheless, you've convinced me to give it another spin. But
I'll
> > own up to being a bad man, and to being not so fond of _The
Wonder_,
> > either. (I'm probably the guy who didn't like the lyrics of
> > "Stalingrad," either. Sorry, folks.)
> >
> > A bad man indeed,
> > Maurice
> >
> >
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