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Subject: TV Digest V1 #1491
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:52:51 -0500
TV Digest Thursday, January 26 2006 Volume 01 : Number 1491
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:19:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Micah <noahbrtn@yahoo.com>
Subject: (TV) Test, MF'ers!!!
Let the invasion begin!!!
Micah
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:10:26 -0500
From: "Casey, Leo J" <Leo.J.Casey@Volpe.dot.gov>
Subject: (TV) Question
Hi,
I'm a little desperate :>) . I need some help from List so
I can postpone a medium to long range task
(~ a month & it started yesterday) that I was given to do
by my boss.
It's an incredibly boring, dumb task that involves learning
a language (SQL) by using an on-line interactive, tutorial
course on a web-site. I like to think I'm not a dummy,
, but I hate learning something solely by reading off
a PC's monitor and continiually having to scroll down.
That was just a very long winded way of saying, that instead
squinting at the web-site totorial, I've been avoiding it by
doing other stuff. What better away to procrastinate than
by writing to the List.
I keep trying to put a single photo of TV (my favorite---never
ever seen it anywhere before) on the "In World " page.
**But** for last 30 minutes after downloading the photo
and having about 02-30 seconds pass I keep getting a
message saying the photo is too big. I don't know if
they mean 'too big' in the sense it takes up too many
Kilo-Bytes (it's a 4,003 KByte file with file
extension .tif), or 'too big' in the sense that when I
look at the photo it on my monitor it uses/takes up the
entire screen , or 'too big' in the sense that the file
extension of the photo is incompatible with "Frappr" site.
If it's 1 and/r 3, is there a way to change it to jpeg
or gif so that it's not as big?
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Allison
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:47 AM
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Subject: Re: (TV) Re: TV Digest V1 #1489
In message <20060124122323.37886.qmail@Jay
<piazzasanmarco@yahoo.com> writes
>what the hell is that?
http://www.frappr.com/inworld
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:18:32 -0600
From: "Dever, Paul (ELS)" <P.Dever@elsevier.com>
Subject: RE: (TV) Question
Probably too big byte-wise. Open it with microsoft photo-editor or
whatever
photo-software you have and "save as" and see if you can change the format
to jpeg--this usually works well. Just saving it as a jpeg should reduce
the file size because jpeg is a compressed format while TIFF isn't.
Either that or mail it to me and I'll send it back as a jpeg.
- --Paul
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From: tv-owner@obbard.com [mailto:tv-owner@obbard.com] On Behalf Of Casey,
Leo J
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 4:10 PM
To: tv@obbard.com
Subject: (TV) Question
Hi,
I'm a little desperate :>) . I need some help from List so I can postpone a
medium to long range task (~ a month & it started yesterday) that I was
given to do by my boss.
It's an incredibly boring, dumb task that involves learning a language
(SQL)
by using an on-line interactive, tutorial course on a web-site. I like to
think I'm not a dummy, , but I hate learning something solely by reading
off
a PC's monitor and continiually having to scroll down.
That was just a very long winded way of saying, that instead squinting at
the web-site totorial, I've been avoiding it by doing other stuff. What
better away to procrastinate than by writing to the List.
I keep trying to put a single photo of TV (my favorite---never ever seen it
anywhere before) on the "In World " page.
**But** for last 30 minutes after downloading the photo
and having about 02-30 seconds pass I keep getting a
message saying the photo is too big. I don't know if
they mean 'too big' in the sense it takes up too many
Kilo-Bytes (it's a 4,003 KByte file with file
extension .tif), or 'too big' in the sense that when I
look at the photo it on my monitor it uses/takes up the
entire screen , or 'too big' in the sense that the file
extension of the photo is incompatible with "Frappr" site.
If it's 1 and/r 3, is there a way to change it to jpeg
or gif so that it's not as big?
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From: tv-owner@obbard.com On Behalf Of Keith
Allison
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:47 AM
To: tv@obbard.com
Subject: Re: (TV) Re: TV Digest V1 #1489
In message <20060124122323.37886.qmail@Jay
<piazzasanmarco@yahoo.com> writes
>what the hell is that?
http://www.frappr.com/inworld
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:12:26 -0000
From: "Howard Webb" <howard@howardwebb.com>
Subject: RE: (TV) Question
Hi Leo,
4003kb is around 4 megabytes - they mean it is too big in terms of
memory/bandwidth.
TIF files are usually uncompressed (though you can get compressed ones).
You should convert it to JPG. Personally I use the freeware Irfanview for
this sort of task, but Paint that comes with Windows will also do this.
Good luck with SQL - there are many books that cover this subject, I'm sure
you can pick one up cheaply.
- -Howard
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From: tv-owner@obbard.com [mailto:tv-owner@obbard.com] On Behalf Of Casey,
Leo J
Sent: 25 January 2006 22:10
To: tv@obbard.com
Subject: (TV) Question
Hi,
I'm a little desperate :>) . I need some help from List so
I can postpone a medium to long range task
(~ a month & it started yesterday) that I was given to do
by my boss.
It's an incredibly boring, dumb task that involves learning
a language (SQL) by using an on-line interactive, tutorial
course on a web-site. I like to think I'm not a dummy,
, but I hate learning something solely by reading off
a PC's monitor and continiually having to scroll down.
That was just a very long winded way of saying, that instead
squinting at the web-site totorial, I've been avoiding it by
doing other stuff. What better away to procrastinate than
by writing to the List.
I keep trying to put a single photo of TV (my favorite---never
ever seen it anywhere before) on the "In World " page.
**But** for last 30 minutes after downloading the photo
and having about 02-30 seconds pass I keep getting a
message saying the photo is too big. I don't know if
they mean 'too big' in the sense it takes up too many
Kilo-Bytes (it's a 4,003 KByte file with file
extension .tif), or 'too big' in the sense that when I
look at the photo it on my monitor it uses/takes up the
entire screen , or 'too big' in the sense that the file
extension of the photo is incompatible with "Frappr" site.
If it's 1 and/r 3, is there a way to change it to jpeg
or gif so that it's not as big?
- -----Original Message-----
From: tv-owner@obbard.com On Behalf Of Keith
Allison
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:47 AM
To: tv@obbard.com
Subject: Re: (TV) Re: TV Digest V1 #1489
In message <20060124122323.37886.qmail@Jay
<piazzasanmarco@yahoo.com> writes
>what the hell is that?
http://www.frappr.com/inworld
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Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 00:18:05 +0000
From: Keith Allison <keith@marquee.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: (TV) Question
In message <auto-000153388211@easily.co.uk>, Howard Webb
<howard@howardwebb.com> writes
>4003kb is around 4 megabytes - they mean it is too big in terms of
>memory/bandwidth. TIF files are usually uncompressed (though you can
>get compressed ones). You should convert it to JPG. Personally I use
>the freeware Irfanview for this sort of task, but Paint that comes with
>Windows will also do this.
Leo,
converting to .jpg will certainly help. You can adjust the quality of
the jpg to control the size of the resulting file.
It may also be that the resolution of the pic is far higher than it
needs to be for the web. You need no more than 72 dpi for web display.
Reducing this will not only change the file size but also decrease the
amount of physical space it takes up on the screen.
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:48:11 -0500
From: "Casey, Leo J" <Leo.J.Casey@Volpe.dot.gov>
Subject: (TV) Beat Topic To Death / A Fly Ball To Deep, Deep, Center Field
/ On the Street / Nice Little Project / Face & Destiny
Hi,
I was a surprised that as many women responded to the
question, thus sparing the List a detailed psycho-analysis
of my recent TV and The Cars (circa-1978) dream.
Laura wrote
>Don't agree he looks bad now. Still pretty real in appearance.
Seena wrote
>I have always thought Verlaine was very good-looking. I've
>run into him on the streets of NYC, and although he's older
>like we all are, I still think he looks great!
I didn't mean to imply that he's still not a very striking
looking individual, and yes he looks very real--but IMHO, he
has aged dramatically in last 7-8 years; to my eyes he looks
older than the *average* man does who's in his mid 50's [he
looks 10-12 years older to me] I know a lot of men his age
and most (didn't say all) don't look like they're in their 60s.
Granted, the entire topic itself is rally silly--it doesn't
matter what he looks like---just as long he just keeps
putting out his 2-3 albums a year as he has done every
year (except for 1985 and 1994).
That being said, I still think he looks unhealthy. T
he other 3 members of Television
have certainly aged (e.g., a little paunchy) [except
for Ficca, who seems ageless despite his life-long cig
habit--unlike Tom, Billy made a deal with the
devil so that he'd be immune to benzene---or maybe he's
part vampire], they don't look unhealthy. Also---e.g.,
Bowie, Springsteen, Reed, Ferry, and P. Smith are all
older, but look much younger and healthier than
TV--although Bowie, a former cig man who had a death-wish
lifestyle, probably has had a face lift.
I think my [unhealthy? morbid?] interest in Tom's
relatively recent appearance stems from:
1) I'm just a selfish bastard: I want him to live for
a long time so he's recorded oeverve will be large.
As we saw when the remastered MM and Adventure albums
came out, there was surprisingly little of other
stuff in the vaults. I always hoped when Tom left this
world he'd finally get more of the recognition he
deserves as a guitarist, musician, and very often
overlooked: as a composer/arranger. Andt as was the
case with Hendrix, they'd later find all this great
(and not so great) unreleased stuff.
2) I 've probably read too many articles [1970s-2000+]
containing too many photographs of TV---and I probably
still have too vivid memories from all his 1981-1992 shows,
so I may be over-sensitized to even moderate physical changes.
Analogous to Ty's reactions to Nick Cave " [he]..exudes
an actual, physical force-field of cool ...", on-stage, Tom
had this *presence*, an aura---a life-force beyond
corporal--an otherworldliness (but in the best sense of
that word); it was ineffable duende that was almost spooky.
(I can 'almost' hear Dennis laughing if he reads this, as he
knows the real Tom , the funny, sometimes goofy, ordinary[?]
guy he actually is :>) .) But sorry, that's what I've always
felt/saw whether imagined or real). But now's it's gone; I
don't see it in photos or feel it's there anymore at
concerts--but maybe that's a good thing. And maybe it as never
existed in the first place--------but it did.
"He's the kid in the back of every high school classroom--the
one you never thought could talk. The one you try to remember
(and can't) when you see his face in the newspaper because he's
had a tragic accident or committed some shocking crime. You'd
least expect to find him a rock cult hero, purveying terminal
romanticism to an amplified beat. But Tom Verlaine isn't your
run-of-the-mill rock hero. He refuses to swagger; he couldn't
strike a pose if he tried. If he's the Jesus of Cool, it's
because, as he says, 'I don't care.'"
3) You might've thought I just went way, deep to center-field,
esp. on the nuttiness-scale, but this one may sound like I've
positively gone off the 'deep' end of the pool:
Probably totally obvious[?], but-- I remember reading an author
who said when we [or at least Christians, or ex-Christians]
go to wakes and we stand/knell at the casket, we think more
about our own deaths than the person's before us. (The same guy
wrote that the degree that a culture is obsessed with sex is
almost directly related to the degree to which its members avoid
confronting their own mortality). So, I'm probably worrying too
much about TV's cigs and life-span as a way to avoid thinking
about the mortality of people close to me--and my own.)
OTOH, a long time ago, another guy wrote, "The wise person
thinks less about death than anything else."
To break the funereal tone, here's a joke (answer below):
What's the difference between an Irish wedding and an Irish wake?
Nancy wrote:
> ... and I'd say he's about average now (if we were all honest,
>we'd admit that most of us look pretty effin' bad these days).
>I've been about 20 feet from him at least five times in the
>past couple of years ...and while he doesn't look the picture
>of health, He looks like he's done some livin', which is, of
>course, why we all love him.
Very well put.
Leo
PS: A nice little project for someone (I'd do it, but as was
obvious from my previous post, I lack the necessary skills
to manipulate electronic files of photos), would be to get
together a large number of photographs of Tom in chronological
order (from the one in the Chinatown loft were he looks so
scrawny a good breeze would have blown him over, to the
ones in Brazil 2005), and then cleverly make an interactive
web-page [using SQL , of course :>) ] so that the computer
flips thru the photos fairly fast so that we get to see Tom
age/morph before our eyes :>). Kinda like in that neat little
creation that was on Public tv about 10 years ago, where the
entire history of the US from 1776 to 1996 flashes by in 90
seconds of images (or something like you used to see on Monty
Python).
PPS: All those women who said they run into Tom on the
streets occasionally---just curious, what do you say when
you run into him? And if he doesn't respond to you verbally,
does he give you a wink of his eye, as he did once to Philip?
PPPS:
B.: It's an interesting face.
B.: (Now frustrated by lack of response). I'm surrounded
by cattle. They wouldn't know an interesting face
from a sow's belly.
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Mr. A: I believe your name will be a household word
when you'll have to go to the Museum to find who I
was. You're the most extraordinary man I've ever met.
TV.: Leave me alone!
Mr. A: What?
TV: Leave me alone!
Mr. A: Well, that's a feeble thing to say.
TV: I know I'm not ordinary.
Mr. A: . That's not what I'm saying. . .
TV: All right! I'm extraordinary! What of it?
Mr. A: Not many people have a destiny, T.; it's
a terrible thing for a man to waste it if he has it.
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Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 01:03:56 +0000
From: Keith Allison <keith@marquee.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: (TV) Beat Topic To Death / A Fly Ball To Deep, Deep, Center
Field / On the Street / Nice Little Project / Face & Destiny
In message
<0351E411702FA84A966DD30E5519124B531044@vntmail03.volpe.dot.gov>,
"Casey, Leo J" <Leo.J.Casey@Volpe.dot.gov> writes
>I think my [unhealthy? morbid?] interest in Tom's relatively recent
>appearance stems from:
Leo, you need a vacation.
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:10:05 -0500
From: "Casey, Leo J" <Leo.J.Casey@Volpe.dot.gov>
Subject: Yes / RE: (TV) Beat Topic To Death / A Fly Ball To Deep, Deep, Ce
nter Field / On the Street / Nice Little Project / Face & Destiny
>Leo, you need a vacation.
I totally agree.
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 21:23:39 -0500
From: Joe Hartley <jh@brainiac.com>
Subject: Re: (TV) Beat Topic To Death / A Fly Ball To Deep, Deep, Center
Field / On the Street / Nice Little Project / Face & Destiny
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:48:11 -0500
"Casey, Leo J" <Leo.J.Casey@Volpe.dot.gov> wrote:
> To break the funereal tone, here's a joke (answer below):
> What's the difference between an Irish wedding and an Irish wake?
Ummm, Leo? You never answered this one!
> If he's the Jesus of Cool, it's because, as he says, 'I don't care.'"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I love this phrase. Does anyone know if it predates Nick Lowe? (The
original UK title for the album known in the States as "Pure Pop for Now
People" is "Jesus of Cool".)
The days are getting longer, Leo - just hang in there without going
around the bend for a little while.
As for the SQL, if you have any programming experience and can understand
the topography of relational databases, then you'll have no problem.
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 22:12:34 -0500
From: Maurice Rickard <maurice@mac.com>
Subject: Re: (TV) Beat Topic To Death / A Fly Ball To Deep, Deep, Center
Field / On the Street / Nice Little Project / Face & Destiny
At 7:48 PM -0500 1/25/06, Casey, Leo J wrote:
> cleverly make an interactive
>web-page [using SQL , of course :>) ] so that the computer
>flips thru the photos fairly fast so that we get to see Tom
>age/morph before our eyes :>).
In a way, I kind of hate to admit to using this program, but it seems
that Flash would be the best tool for this.
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:47:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Micah <noahbrtn@yahoo.com>
Subject: (TV) Back on the Chain Gang
Hey, Everybody
I rejoined the list this morning (I had been meaning to since the new
year). What prompted it was getting into iTunes and discovering I could buy
the Waldorf live record. While listening to it (-and Billy Ficca and
freaking clarity of the recording), I started to wonder "What are those
mugs up to?"
Well?
Micah
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 22:51:22 -0500
From: "Dennis D" <dend@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: (TV) Beat Topic To Death / A Fly Ball To Deep, Deep, Center
Field / On the Street / Nice Little Project / Face & Destiny
> > To break the funereal tone, here's a joke (answer below):
> > What's the difference between an Irish wedding and an Irish wake?
>
> Ummm, Leo? You never answered this one!
One less drunk.
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:44:54 -0500
From: "tom" <thomas@bigdayphoto.com>
Subject: (TV) drums
We've talked a bit about Tom and Richard's guitar/amp preferences...anyone
know what Billy likes/uses as far as drums go?
tom
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Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 07:32:31 +0000
From: Keith Allison <keith@marquee.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: (TV) Beat Topic To Death / A Fly Ball To Deep, Deep, Center
Field / On the Street / Nice Little Project / Face & Destiny
In message <p06020400bffdee55d624@[192.168.1.106]>, Maurice Rickard
<maurice@mac.com> writes
>In a way, I kind of hate to admit to using this program, but it seems
>that Flash would be the best tool for this.
So it's you!
Thank heavens for Firefox's Flash Block extension.
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Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 07:38:16 +0000
From: Keith Allison <keith@marquee.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: (TV) drums
In message
<20060126044451.CGHL19943.eastrmmtao04.cox.net@YOURA11C73D0FD>, tom
<thomas@bigdayphoto.com> writes
>We've talked a bit about Tom and Richard's guitar/amp
>preferences...anyone know what Billy likes/uses as far as drums go?
Most recent I could find was 1992:
"Drummer BILLY FICCA has a Pearl black lacquer MLX maple-shell set.
Until his old Pearl Jupiter brass snare gets repaired hebs using a
Pearl metal floating snare. The toms are 12", 13" and 16"; the bass drum
is 22".His Zildjian cymbals include an 18" K custom ride, paper-thin
17", a medium-thin 19" and a big 20". The famous hi-hats are 15" live,
smaller for recording. Sticks are Zildjian 3As: "I donbt like nylon
tips because they fly off!"
Probably hasn't changed much since then.
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Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 01:49:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Lori Inman <lorilinman@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (TV) Re: 'Messianic /Women on Lis t, Please Weigh-in
Leo, I love that you started this discussion. It's not
typical of the high-minded topics we so often find
here.
I'm afraid I might find ultra-talented men more
attractive than they really are, so it might not mean
much that I think Tom Verlaine has always been really,
really, really, really good looking. And I don't think
he looks particularly unhealthy now.
But I've also thought Richard Hell was really handsome
since the first time I saw the Voidoids in 1979. And I
have to wonder - if Richard Hell were my mailman or
the cashier at the drycleaner, would I find him
attractive? I'm not sure. I know I always find good
actors more attractive than bad actors. Does anyone
else have this problem?
One thing I'm sure of though. Richard Lloyd, when I
used to go to hear him a lot (late 70s, early 80s)
looked like an angel. If he'd been my mailman I would
have greeted him with a lemonade every warm day and a
hot chocolate every cold day. And if he had worked at
the drycleaner, I would have been there everyday with
some piece of cloth, any piece of cloth I could find.
- --- Laura10012@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 1/22/06 1:47:01 PM,
> LeoCasey@comcast.net writes:
>
>
> > female concurring here that tom was very appealing
> in
> > his youth. i would not go so far as to say
> messianic!
> > for that we have jakob dylan. and agreed he looks
> > pretty bad now.
> >
> > r
> >
>
> Don't agree he looks bad now. Still pretty real in
> appearance.
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Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 06:33:43 -0500
From: Joe Hartley <jh@brainiac.com>
Subject: Re: (TV) Beat Topic To Death / A Fly Ball To Deep, Deep, Center
Field / On the Street / Nice Little Project / Face & Destiny
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 07:32:31 +0000
Keith Allison <keith@marquee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <p06020400bffdee55d624@[192.168.1.106]>, Maurice Rickard
> <maurice@mac.com> writes
> >In a way, I kind of hate to admit to using this program, but it seems
> >that Flash would be the best tool for this.
>
> So it's you!
> Thank heavens for Firefox's Flash Block extension.
This made me laugh out loud, as I browse with Flash turned off, and use
a mail program that strips HTML from email. Thanks :)
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Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:44:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Jay <piazzasanmarco@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (TV) Re: 'Messianic /Women on Lis t, Please Weigh-in
Heroin addiction has had a toll on Richard.
- --- Lori Inman <lorilinman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Leo, I love that you started this discussion. It's
> not
> typical of the high-minded topics we so often find
> here.
>
> I'm afraid I might find ultra-talented men more
> attractive than they really are, so it might not
> mean
> much that I think Tom Verlaine has always been
> really,
> really, really, really good looking. And I don't
> think
> he looks particularly unhealthy now.
>
> But I've also thought Richard Hell was really
> handsome
> since the first time I saw the Voidoids in 1979. And
> I
> have to wonder - if Richard Hell were my mailman or
> the cashier at the drycleaner, would I find him
> attractive? I'm not sure. I know I always find good
> actors more attractive than bad actors. Does anyone
> else have this problem?
>
> One thing I'm sure of though. Richard Lloyd, when I
> used to go to hear him a lot (late 70s, early 80s)
> looked like an angel. If he'd been my mailman I
> would
> have greeted him with a lemonade every warm day and
> a
> hot chocolate every cold day. And if he had worked
> at
> the drycleaner, I would have been there everyday
> with
> some piece of cloth, any piece of cloth I could
> find.
>
>
>
>
> --- Laura10012@aol.com wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 1/22/06 1:47:01 PM,
> > LeoCasey@comcast.net writes:
> >
> >
> > > female concurring here that tom was very
> appealing
> > in
> > > his youth. i would not go so far as to say
> > messianic!
> > > for that we have jakob dylan. and agreed he
> looks
> > > pretty bad now.
> > >
> > > r
> > >
> >
> > Don't agree he looks bad now. Still pretty real
> in
> > appearance.
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Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:59:43 -0500
From: "Dennis D" <dend@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: (TV)
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Richard has been clean for over 20 years. I really doubt its has much to do
with how he looks now.
> Heroin addiction has had a toll on Richard.
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Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:59:43 -0500
From: "Dennis D" <dend@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: (TV)
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Richard has been clean for over 20 years. I really doubt its has much to do
with how he looks now.
> Heroin addiction has had a toll on Richard.
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