From: "BlackMonk" <BlackMonk@email.msn.com>
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Subject: Re: (TV) a friend responds
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 22:21:18 -0400
----- Original Message ----- From: "Murray Ramone"
<murrayramone@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: (TV) a friend responds
just checking out this nonsense
Steven Segal has a blues band, he played in Edinburgh recently, did okay
business, partly blues fans, partly hollywood fans, partly old grannies
but, do you know what he had with him ?
his own personal buddhist monk
Did he order the audience to be completely silent?
Richard Lloyd can do whatever the fuck he wants, if people dont like it,
they can go home
Will Richard give them back the money they paid for him to perform music?
(Yes, people pay for him to perform music, not just to see him do
whatever.) Or are the shows billed as "Richard Lloyd acts like a prima
donna for your amusment?"
Most people are paid to do a job, not to do whatever the fuck they want.
But if that ever happens to me, I'm sure you'll be happy to reimburse me.
If you can be so cavilier with other people's money, it must mean so little
to you that you won't mind spending a bit so Richard Lloyd can do whatever
the fuck he wants without criticism.
From: Ty Burr <tyburr@mindspring.com>
Reply-To: tv@obbard.com
To: tv@obbard.com
Subject: Re: (TV) a friend responds
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 18:36:13 -0400
How DARE him foist his own frigging sanctimonious pseudo religious
self-deception on an
audience that PAID to see him play music. He can fuck himself.
I'm sorry, that's just bollocks. You don't pay to see an artist play
music, you pay to see the artist, period, and whatever baggage he/she
brings to the party is part of the entire deal. You just can't divorce
the two. How dare your friend be so ridiculously pious? Would he object
if it had been another musician, like, I don't know, Daniel Johnston
(who gets a free pass to act crazy because the poor guy IS crazy and the
music press loves him for it). Would he object if Richard had said
things your friend agreed with, politically or spiritually (or
a-spiritually, as the case may be)?
I don't begrudge Richard laying his religious trip on me anymore than if
he were to wax political, poetic, anthropological, whatever. I don't
have to agree to it or even comprehend it to allow him the space to do
that without telling him to fuck off. He has earned my respect A)
through 35 years of playing music I admire to no end and B) getting on a
stage in front of a crowd in the first place. To be honest, I was mighty
entertained by the whole spectacle of intransigent artist -- fine, call
him delusional if it makes you feel better (or maybe there's something
to the whole Tony Clifton thing) -- versus outraged audience. Anything
that gets the hipoisies' knickers in a twist can't be all bad.
Maybe I'd kick at Barbra Streisand prices, but not at $10 and a beer. In
other words, quit your belly-achin', give the man some room, let him say
what he feels and play what he feels, and if you don't like it, don't
see him a second time. But I bet you will.
T.
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