RE: (TV) Heard ole Neil put us down

[William Hooper <gsr100@hotmail.com>]

a little off topic but I saw ol Neil for the first time about 3 weeks ago and
he was amazing, no other word for it.

I'm not even a big fan, my girlfriend has has about half a dozen of his best
albums and

I've got a few bootlegs, but he blew me away, like a hurricane. It was worth
staying all day in 400C heat

surrounded by shirtless white trash just to see him. It was equally as good as
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, who just lost mick harvey.

> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:16:15 -0600
> Subject: Re: (TV) Heard ole Neil put us down
> From: russvr@gmail.com
> To: tv@obbard.com
>
> This is a great expression, Andy. I'm glad you have brought it up. I don't
> think of Neil as a social crusader but he has stuck up for the down and
out,
> and the oppressed and repressed, of society . And Southern Man, along with
> Ohio, as well as more obscure songs like Southern Pacific, have decried the
> injustices perpetrated by the majority, the resourceful and privileged onto
> the minority and vulnerable people of our society. Not just African
> Americans but any who have been discriminated against.
> Funny, while his being from Canada has always been a part of his persona,
> often mentioned in his songs, I always felt he has a 'southern" feel to him
> - a Stephen Foster thing that gets expressed in songs like 'Cripple Creek
> Ferry' and 'Losing End' and others.
>
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:01 PM, andy fekete <andy.fekete@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Not so fast.
> >
> > I grew up in Richmond, VA, and I think "Southern Man", for all it's
> > excess, was quite justified for the time.
> >
> > The racism in the South during the 60s and 70s was intense and quite
> > overt, nothing subtle about it at all. My high school was Douglas
> > Freeman (the famous Lee biographer), the school song was Dixie, the
> > football team was the Freeman Rebels, the school flag was the Stars
> > and Bars, the school colors were grey, and the majorettes pranced in
> > sexy outfits styled after Confederate officer's uniforms. But those
> > were just symbols: the blatant racism that was tolerated -- no,
> > expected -- as a matter of course in everyday social discourse, and
> > the actions that were acknowledged, allowed and tacitly approved as a
> > matter of course, at ever level of society, was simply appalling.
> >
> > The whole thing was utterly mystifying to us, as we were immigrants
> > (from Hungary), and weren't raised with the requisite mindset. Modern
> > Southern revisionists like to pretend it wasn't a big deal, but it was
> > definitely there, alright, and very, very ugly. I doubt it is
> > possible for anyone, even a Canadian hippie peacenik, to
> > over-exaggerate how pervasive and ugly it truly was.
> >
> > -A
> >
> > Boat Burning / Amps Do Furnish A Room
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Scott Simpson <SSimpson@nyc.rr.com>
> > wrote:
> > > I feel the love. Hugs all around.
> > >
> > > But, it's a Southern thang, y'all.
> > >
> > > Scott Simpson
> > >
> > > 212 795 2846
> > >
> > > Yes Rudy, a community organizer
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