Re: (TV) New Heartbreakers box

[Steve Rovner <serovner@mindspring.com>]

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17326-johnny-thunders-the-heartbreakers-lamf-the-lost-77-mixes-special-edition/


-----Original Message-----
>From: Phil Obbard <pobbard@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Jan 7, 2013 3:26 PM
>To: Marquee Moon Mailing List <tv@obbard.com>
>Subject: (TV) New Heartbreakers box
>
>Hi all,
>
>There's a new 4 CD box out focused on LAMF, the Heartbreakers' sole
>studio album, from 1977. Disc 3 has some tracks on which Richard Hell plays
>bass, hence it's relationship to this list. But for anyone interesting in the
>Heartbreakers in general...
>
>You can hear samples
>here: http://www.amazon.com/L-A-M-F-The-Definitive-Edition-Box/dp/B00ARW7EMS/
>A brief breakdown:
>
>Disc 1 is the LAMF "lost mixes" disc first released in
>1994. The original release of LAMF, in 1977, was plagued with terrible sound.
>At the time, the production team thought this was the result of the mix, so
>the band spent months remixing the tracks over and over to get a better sound.
>Turns out the problem was mastering, but no-one figured that out until after
>Johnny Thunders and Jerry Nolan were both dead... Anyway, this disc is still
>the best way to hear this material; better than the original release and
>better than the mid-80s remix known as LAMF REVISITED.
>
>Disc 2 is a apparently
>the original LAMF release, mastered properly. This sounds interesting, but
>there were countless mixes of this record in an attempt to get around the
>mastering issue. Not sure any set is more "original" than any others.
>
>Disc 3
>is a "demos" disc. Most of this disc has been released elsewhere, covering
>1976 and early 1977, but the first 4 tracks date from Richard Hell's only demo
>session with the Heartbreakers, in late '75 or early '76. The Hell tracks are
>not included here -- most have been released elsewhere -- but 3
>never-before-released Johnny Thunders tracks from the session w/Hell kick off
>the disc. They've circulated among collectors for years, but again, this is
>their first official release. 
>
>Disc 4 is an "alternative mixes" disc. As I
>mentioned before, the LAMF material was remixed countless times in 1977 while
>they tried to (unknowingly) work around the mastering issue. A whole bunch of
>these mixes are collected here. Not sure if any have been previously released.
>I'd file this set under "I'm interested, but...". I've already bought the LAMF
>material a few times over -- the old LAMF revisited disc, the original single
>disc issue of the LOST MIXES in 1994, and the deluxe edition of the LOST MIXES
>in 2002 (which add a second CD of demos and alternate mixes, some of which are
>repeated on Disc 3, but not sure if all are). I've also got the DOWN TO KILL
>comp from a few years ago, which has more post-Thunders demos also repeated
>here. While Disc 2 and Disc 4 might be mostly new to me, the only thing I
>really want on this set are probably those first 3 tracks on Disc 3 -- not
>enough to spend $30-$50. Still, it's a nice set, and perhaps a template for a
>future release by another band we know and love... :)
>
>--Phil
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