Re: (TV) More on Hell's "autobiography"

[Phil Obbard <pobbard@yahoo.com>]

Good quotes and excerpts Bob, thanks!

--Phil
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 From: Bob Beatty <bobjb2002@yahoo.ca>
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Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: (TV) More on
Hell's "autobiography"
 
Yes, thanks to Phil for those recent Hell interview
links. I thought I'd read
some earlier interviews where Hell sounded as if he
may forgiven Tom, & where
he said he & TomB  spoke together now & then, as Deb
says, even if they
weren't best buds anymore. To make sure I didn't just dream
up this sunnier
scenario I looked for & found the quotes:
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http://www.trakmarx.com/2003_05/050_hell.htm
[May 2003
interv.]

"trakMARX: So why did you leave Television? You were clearly on to
something
as a musical unit.


RICHARD HELL: Tom felt like he needed things to
be done his way and he 
had
the power as the most musically developed to
enforce that. Though I 
was very
angry and bitter and resentful about it at
the time, itbs 
pretty clear that
Ibm kind of the same way myself, and in fact
I 
demonstrated it in my next
band. Almost every group has a leader, even 
the
ones that claim they
donbt."
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http://www.richardhell.com/365chat.html[March 30,
2000 intrerv.]
"Shane:
'Love Comes In Spurts'. Autobiographical? Who are you
still in touch
with from the punk bands from the good old days? Have you seen
Rotten 
TV?
What do you think of it?

RICHARD HELL: Yeah, ['Love Comes In
Spurts'] was
really 
heartfelt, that song. And, sad as it is, I meant every
word of that
song. I'm really pretty solitary. I'm barely in touch with my
girlfriend. I
talk to [Robert] Quine about once a year, and there's some
reason or other
that I talk to [Tom] Verlaine, or talk to Thurston 
Moore once
in a while. But
there's no one from that era that I drop acid
with any more."
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I agree, it's too bad the two are no longer even on speaking
terms now.
These days, judging by recent quotes from the interviews Phil
linked to, it
sounds like Hell may have reverted closer to the opinion of Tom
he voiced in
the late '70s, summed up by a quote he gave to Melody Maker once.
The
interviewer asked Hell about:

QUOTE:B  "...the apparently bitter feud
between he and teenage soul-mate Tom
Verlaine.
[Hell]: 'It's a cold hatred,
not a feud,' he glowered, and it seemed unwise to
press further."
[-Melody
Maker, Oct. 28, 1977. It's in that articles collection I upped &
posted a link
for here once].

I like to think Hell's bookB  will be mostly positive 
in
tone towards Tom, at
least in recounting their early years as pals, 
with any
serious Tom-bashing
perhaps unlikely to start till Hell gets closer to maybe
late '74B  in the
chronology.
--- On Thu, 3/7/13, postitnote
<postitnote@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: postitnote <postitnote@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: (TV) More on Hell's "autobiography"
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Thursday, March 7, 2013, 10:22 AM

Thanks Phil for finding these.

I was
disappointed to read that Richard didn't care about Tom's reaction to
stuff
that he wrote about him, due to them not having a relationship
anymore.B  I
mean, yeah, I knew they were no longer good friends, but I
thought that they
were on speaking terms nowadays.B  It doesn't sound like
they're even that.B 
Seems a shame.

D.


--- On Wed, 3/6/13, Phil Obbard <pobbard@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> From: Phil Obbard <pobbard@yahoo.com>
> Subject: (TV) More on Hell's
"autobiography"
> To: "Marquee Moon Mailing List" <tv@obbard.com>
> Date:
Wednesday, March 6, 2013, 7:15 PM
> Short, interesting interview:
>
>
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/culture/richard-hell-interview-15179960
>
>
> And
another, a bit more introspective:
>
>
http://observer.com/2013/03/no-fury-the-bowerys-changed-but-richard-hell-does
nt-mind/
>
>
> Verlaine (and Hell's relationship with him) is mentioned
>
centrally in both pieces.
>
> I find myself more and more eager to read this
book!
>
> --Phil
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