More Than You'd Ever Want To Know / RE: (TV) Complete Spanish TV show

["Leo Casey" <LeoCasey@comcast.net>]

Leif,

This was tree-ed on the other List (Television-Group) as part of a 2-DVD
collection of live Television performances.

Leo

PS:  See (a) below for more details.

Television/Tom Verlaine, Trying To Tell A Vision, Video Anthology 
Volume II, From The Years 1984, 1986, 1987, 1992, And 2002DVD3  [Received
from CA on October 5, 2005, and on January 3, 2007.]   

Description: Volume II contains the following:

a) Tom Verlaine, September 25, 1984, Live On La Edad de Oro, tv-Broadcast,
TVE2, Estudio-2, Prado del Rey, Madrid, Spain:  Glory (0:00 - 2:59.9:
2:59.9, + 10.9 applause & T.V.: Gracias.. + 8.1 sec. T.V.: This is a 
little piece called Miss Emily from the [unintelligible] she lives..
Total: 3:18.9) / Miss Emily (1.1 sec. silence, 1.1 - 6:33.5: 6:32.4, + 14.0
sec. applause & tuning-up) (extraordinarily rare; there exist only two live
recordings!) / Red Leaves (1.5 sec. silence, 1.5 - 2:50.0: 2:48.5, + 11.4
sec. applause) (rare) / Rotation (0.2 sec. silence, 0.2 - 4:12.7: 4:12.5, +
16.0 sec. applause & tuning-up) / Souvenir From A Dream* (0.8 sec. silence,
0.8 - 4:10.6: 4:09.8, + 6.2 sec. applause) / Penetration (1.5 sec. silence,
1.5 - 5:02.7: 5:01.2, + 29.4 sec. applause, band intros & tuning-
up)  [exceptional musicianship by all] / Dissolve-Reveal (1.5 sec. T.V.:
This is called  un  Dissolve., 1.5 - 5:20.9: 5:19.4, + 22.3 sec.
applause & tuning-up) / Kingdom Come (2.0 sec. silence, 2.0 - 3:35.1:
3:33.1, + 19.6 sec. applause & tuning-up) / Excerpt From 41 Monologuesv2
(aka I Am Daylight) (2.6 sec. silence, 2.6 - 2:27.9: 2:25.3) (very, very
rare)/Swim (2:27.9 - 5:54.9: 3:29.6)/spooky transition (0:45.4)/Clear It
Away (5:07.7, 5:09.4: T.V.: Good Night.., from 5:07.7 is  56.7 sec. of
long applause & repeated shouts of Toma!, Toma!, Toma!, and loud
whistling; then 43 sec. of tuning-up after band returns to stage) / Encore:
Marquee Moon (2.4 sec. tuning-up, 2.4 - 12:42.0: 12:39.6 includes ~6 - 7
sec. of the lingering and quite audible, and wonderfully long-lasting
reverberation/resonance in the room (i.e., in the tv-studio)! + 15.9 sec.
raucous applause) [short but spectacular! Less is more? Some of Verlaines
guitar playing here is very reminiscent of that of a jazz guitarist]
Concert:  63:31.5  

Note:  None of the 15 minute interview Verlaine gave on September 25, 1984
to tv-host, Paloma Chamorro, is included on this DVD3.  

La Edad de Oro (The Golden Age) was [is?] the name of a television-show
in Spain, on which performers from Spain and other countries performed live
in front of a studio audience.  The female host of La Edad de Oro,
Senorita Paloma Chamorro, gives a 1 minute and 54 second introduction to Tom
(she has a gigantic Afro, and is sitting on the side of the stageactually
its more like a daisand is surrounded by young teenagers). According 
to http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0569170/fullcredits#cast Paloma Chamorro also
directed this particular show!

Tom and the band perform on a stage in relative darkness except for arrays
of colored stage lights, although sometimes a white spotlight is used when a
television camera zooms in on Tom.  It is a small tv-studio audience 
of about 120.  Three or four separate tv cameras are usedwith many close-up
shots of Toms face, or his fingers when playing guitar.  During Kingdom
Come, the songs lyrics are superimposed on the tv- screen and scroll-by 
as he sings.  Each songs title is identified by credits during its
performance.  Tom wears a gigantic black beret, 
black shirt, black pants, and black boots.  He looks like a volunteer from
the International Brigade (who supported 
the Republicans in Spain against Francos Nationalists in Spains Civil War.
The Carried Away Seed Details and 
The Wonder both  read, Spanish-tv concert 1985[sic]..

Leo gives this performance a 10, the audio a 9, but the video imagery
only a 5 or a 6.  

Note:  A video recording of  this same Madrid tv-broadcast also appears on 
The Stolen Files_7, Tom Verlaine, September 25, 1984, Live On La Edad de
Oro, tv-Broadcast, TVE2, Estudio-2, Prado del Rey, Madrid, Spain 
(Concert And tv-Interview3)From Stolen Original Master tv-Broadcast
TapesBest Quality VersionDVD4.  It has vastly superior video quality
(i.e., Leo gives the video image quality of the DVD, The Stolen Files_7,
September 25, 1984, a 9.5 or a 10!).    

The entire September 25, 1984 show can also be found on YouTube at:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=E5788181CB47646Ealbeit its video
and audio quality is inferior to the above DVD3 version (and the  DVD4
version whose Listing appears later in this Catalogue ). 

b)  Promotional Video, 1986:  A Town Called Walker (3:25.5, but music,
itself, is only 3:20).  The first 5.5 seconds of promo-video is a silent
cartoon of Tom thumbing through the pages of a scrapbook; this scrapbook is 
featured prominently in the rest of the video, as well as many shots of Tom
dressed in black, wool  pea-coat and black beret.  During the final ~11
seconds with the music still  playing an aphorism of the German author,
Rudolph Claudius,  (possibly one of Toms favorites?) scrolls up the screen,
first in its original German, and then an English translation:  The energy
in the world is constant; the entropy in the world endeavors to increase..


On a scale of from 1 to 10, Leo gives the image quality of the video a
rating of a 7 to a 7.5, and the sound a 7.5 to an 8. This 
promo-video also appears on June  g d, 1990, MTV Promotional Interview7
With Solo Acoustic7 Performances Of Stalingrad And Ancient Egypt In
MTV-Studio; Plus Richard Lloyd And Band, November 14, 1985, Performing
Soldier Blue And Field Of Fire, Gothenberg, Sweden, Later Broadcasted On
Swedish Public-tv, Stockholm, SwedenDVD5, whose Listing appears later in
this Catalogue. This promo-video of  A Town 
Called Walker does not exist on YouTube.  

c)  From The Old Grey Whistle Test (OGWT), BBC-4, tv-Show, London, April
1978:  Foxhole (cuts, only 1:25.5!, 1:29.5 with emcees intro)  This,
however, is an edited and truncated version of the original 
April 1978 performance of Foxhole.  It begins with an intro lasting only
~4 seconds by a slick-talking, woman-emcee (who has short, blonde hair and
is dressed in a black and white blouse) from the BBCl-4  tv-Show, The
Tube, London. This April 1978 OGWT footage was played back on February 13,
1987 on The Tube as a way of introducing Verlaines February 13, 1987
performance; the February 13, 1987 performance itself is listed in (d)
below.  She says in her very short intro,  ... [this OGWT video is] from
their last year together, 1978, Foxhole..  Superimposed over the video
for a few seconds while the band plays are the words,  ... from 1978, the
bands last year..  Note:  When this version of Foxhole ends, it is
immediately followed by ~7 seconds of the same emcee talking inanely about
some other band, followed by a 1-sec. video glitch.  The complete version
(i.e., 4:07) of the OGWT video of Foxhole is on Television/Tom Verlaine,
Trying To Tell A Vision, Video Anthology  Volume I, From The Years 1974,
1975, 1978, 1982, And 1984DVD2 , which is the previous Listing.   

Note: The 16th is the best guess as Television played Londons Hammersmith
Odeon on April 16 and 17. Leo gives the image quality a rating of a 6 to a
7, and gives the audio quality a rating of an 8 to an 8.5.  There is  no
video of this shortened and emcee-introduced version of Foxhole on
YouTube.   

d)  From The Tube, Channel-4 tv-Show, London, February 13, 1987:  A Town
Called Walker (2:57: music + 6 sec. acapella-ending, 2:51 just music, 3:04
with emcee intro) (extraordinarily rare; there exists only three live
recordings!)/1.6 sec. transition of drum sticks clicking together/Bomb
(5:39.4 = 5:38.4 just music + 1 sec. acapella ending)/10.3 sec. audience
applause; Grand total: 8:53.6 (with emcee-intro). This is the very first
appearance for these two songs. The same slick-talking  woman-emcee (who has
the exact same short, blonde hair and is dressed in the exact same black &
white blouse as in (c) above) says in her brief 7-second intro, Tom
Verlaine with two tracks from his soon-to-be-released album, Flash Light,
backed by members of Love And Money..  These were performed on a real stage
before a relatively large tv-studio audience.  The band stops A Town Called
Walker unexpectedly on a dime at 2:51 and Verlaine says, I dont think
she cares too much about it ... I mean she hung around there an awfully long
time. She didnt seem to be getting anywhere..  (2:51 + the 
6-second vocal-only ending = 2:57 total.)  This live A Town Called Walker
is not quite a full-length version; the officially released album version
including the entire fade-out is 3:24.0 when played back on Total Recorder
with volume set very high at songs fade-out ending.  Leo gives the image
quality of these two videos a rating of 6 to a 6.5 and the 
audio quality a rating of an 8 to an 8.5.

Verlaines backup band consisted of members of the Scottish group, Love And
Money (a rhythm/lead guitarist, bassist and drummer), who do a very good job
with these two songs.  Steve Pittaway of the Marquee Moon  
Mailing List wrote on August 18, 2007:  Love And Money was on the Fontana
record label at the same time as Verlaine, plus they were on The Tube the
same day as Verlaine (I also wonder if they shared the same management at
the time?). It would be interesting to know how much rehearsal they had for
the tv-program as they do seem to play together very well.  On August 16,
2007, Joe Thornton wrote on the Marquee Moon Mailing List, Did you notice
what Tom says at the end of Bomb [acapella the final second of song]?  I
was really beginning  to wonder. . The live, February 13, 1987 performance
of A Town Called Walker can also be on YouTube at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7LfIafSSrg.
 

Note 1:  The Carried Seed Details/The Wonder both read:  Foxhole [sic] /
A Town Called Walker / Bomb (The Tube, UK-tv, 1987). 
 
Note 2: According to an off-List e-mail from Earl Greaves on October 29,
2010, regarding the show of February 13, 1987:    The Tube was broadcast
on Channel 4,  not on the BBC..

e)  Promotional Video, 1992:  Call Mr. Lee (4:16); Leo gives the image
quality a rating of an 8 to a 9, and 
gives the audio quality a rating of a 9 to 9.5. Leo also has a copy on his
hard drive of Call Mr. Lee.  It was originally sent by Claudia via e-mail,
but the Claudia version is in a compressed file format of MPEG-1, and it
will only play via free software/player on Leos PC.  The MPEG-1 version
possesses good picture and sound quality.  This promo-video is also on
YouTube at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4QZSDu1wx8albeit its video and
audio quality is inferior to the above DVD3 version.

f)  From The Fuji Rock Festival, July 26, 2002, Mount Naeba Ski Resort,
Niigata, Japan:  1880 Or So (7:16) / Call Mr. Lee (4:56) / Glory
(3:24)  Leo gives the image quality a rating of an 8, and gives the audio
quality a rating of a 9.  (The Wonder does not rate it.)   Note: Swells/Big
Tree3 is not included with 1880 Or So.

All three of these videos are on YouTube at:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=TOM+VERLAINE&suggested_categorie
s=10&page=1 albeit their video and audio quality are inferior to the above
DVD3 version.

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Television/Tom Verlaine, Trying To Tell A Vision, Video Anthology  Volume
I, From The Years 1974, 1975, 1978, 1982, And 1984DVD2   
  
Description:  This is Volume I of a two volume set of videos (see next entry
for Vol. II details).  Leo bought his first copy of this DVD on e-bay for
$25 in September 2005.  Carried Away (tree) : a  set of two DVDs the first
of which contained the exact same material that is on Television/Tom
Verlaine, Trying To Tell A Vision, Video Anthology  Volume I,  From The
Years 1974, 1975, 1978, 1982, And 1984DVD2 .  The Carried Away set of two
DVDs goes by the name,  Trying To Television (2 DVDs Anthology): Volume I
(1974 - 1984), Adventure Disc DVD, ADVD 001, 2005; And Volume II (1984 -
2001), Adventure Disc DVD, ADVD 002, 2005.  

Theres quite a range in quality of  the video image and the audio on this
DVD; see more details in (a) through (e) below. The Wonder doesnt rate this
DVDs video quality or audio quality. Leo compared the quality of the image
and the sound [when not jumping, skipping, or freezing-up] on all three of
the above remaining copies; the quality appears to be identical on all
three. The length of the DVD is the same for all three copies:  93
minutes.{Rov: _}

This Volume I DVD contains the following:

a)  From Terry Orks Loft Rehearsal, Q, r s, 1974 (Month And Day(s)
Unknown):  
b)  From The Film Blank Generation, 1975, CBGB, NYC:  The filmmakers Ivan
Kral and Amos Poe edited into the film post facto a  soundtrack consisting
of snippets of Little Johnny Jewel/ O Mi Amore (~60 
seconds)/Little Johnny Jewel; this was done since the original footage did
not contain  the audio when Televisions songs were performed in the film.
The short  piece of the film that is on the DVD, Trying To Tell 
A Vision - Vol. I ,  is only 4:50.5.  The video image quality of the
performances of Little Johnny Jewel/O Mi Amore/Little Johnny Jewel is
mediocre; Leo rates it at about a 5.  

c)  From The Old Grey Whistle Test (OGWT), BBC-4, tv-Show, April 16, 1978:
Foxhole (4:17, of which 10 seconds is silent video of the band before and
after the song; so, 4:07).  Russ Van Rooy  wrote, I  think you are going to
love it too!  Its certainly the most amazing rock performance video that
Ive seen in a long time. Great close-ups of Tom on the fret-board, during
solos, for gods sake!  Hear the way those strings are being bent.  You can
actually see the vibrato coming off those strings.  It makes me want to get
a Fender Jazzmaster all the more so..   (According to BitTorrent #142806 on
DIME,  The Unreleased Old Grey Whistle Test, Vol. 7, 1974 - 2007, PAL
DVD, the date is May 16, 1978; however, Televisions last concert date in
Europe in 1978 was on April 17 at the Hammersmith Odeon, London.)  Note:  An
incomplete, edited  version (1:25.5), of the OGWT video of Foxhole is on
Television/Tom Verlaine, Trying To Tell A Vision, Video Anthology  Volume
II, From The Years 1984, 1986, 1987, 1992, And 2002DVD3 , which is the next
Listing in this Catalogue.   

Note 1: The 16th is the best guess as Television played Londons Hammersmith
Odeon on April 16 and 17. 

d)  Promotional Videos, 1982:  Words From The Front (3:57)/Clear It Away
(4:11).  The Words From The Front video is a very strange (bad strange)
video with a young and uncomfortable looking Tom. The promo-video for Words
>From The Front and song length are both only 3:57, i.e., it is not the 6:39
album version of the song.  The promo-video for Clear It Away is
embarrassingly bad, with Tom naked from the waist-up!  In several shots, it
looks like parts of his face have a very bad case of acne or some other
skin-condition.  On October 6, 2005, Greg Grant wrote on the Marquee Moon
Mailing List regarding this video:   ... Tom could have been rich if he
made this into a tv-ad:  Clearasil it away..  Leo has an old newspaper
clipping that says these two promo-videos were directed by Ed Steinberg.

The quality of the video image for both videos is poor to  mediocre; Leo
gives it a rating of a 3 to a 4 and gives the audio a rating of a 4 to a 5).


e)  From The Old Grey Whistle Test (OGWT), BBC-4, tv-Show, London, June fg
(Most Likely June 8 Or 9 Or 10 Or 11), 1982:, Days On The Mountain - Part
1 (4:56.5)/Days On The Mountain- Part 2 (4:35.0) (very rare).  The first
0:30 is a British,  female host of the OGWT (badly) introducing Verlaine.
The reason for the OGWT breaking-up the performance/song into two parts was
because the OGWT had to switch-to/include other programming/bands roughly
every 5 minutes (i.e., analogous to the modus operandi of the BBC  tv-show,
Live With Jools Holland); so,  the OGWT told Tom ahead of time that he
would have to perform his very long song in two separate parts.  Part 1 has
its own separate ending, and Part 2 has its own separate beginning.  At 4:11
of Part 2, the OGWT credits begin rolling over the band as it continues to
play (and be heard); 24 seconds later the OGWT broadcast officially
terminates with the band still playing.  The OGWT sound engineer has
expertly faded-out the song over the last 11 seconds of the broadcast.  


The video image quality of Part 1 is good to very good; Leo gives it a
rating of an 8.5 to a 9 (the sound also gets a 
rating of an 8.5 to a 9).  The video image quality of Part 2 is terriblethe
result of deliberately surreal lighting as 
well as arty/hokey multi-exposures of the band; Leo gives the sound of Part
2 a rating of an 8 to an 8.5). A video 
of the OGWT 1982 live Days On The Mountain - Part 1 can also be found on
YouTube at: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1VtAiZNyKMalbeit its video and audio
quality is inferior  to the above DVD2 version.  ( 

f)  Promotional Video, 1984:  Five Miles Of You (3:22)  The length of the
45 r.p.m., 7-inch-single version of the song is 3:49 according to the
vinyls front paper-label of Leos copy of the 45 r.p.m., 7-inch-single.
This means that the promo-video of Five Miles Of You is considerable
shorter than the single27 seconds shorter if the length on the vinyls
paper-label is accurate.  The lengths of songs printed by the record
companies on these paper-labels (or in the liner notes) are notoriously
inaccurateoften by a few seconds (or more).  However, the most likely
explanation for the difference in lengths is that Warner Brothers
deliberately made the promo-video version of Five Miles Of You shorter
because they believed that the average music fans attention span is short,
and so a  promo-video should never exceed 3 and one-half minutes!

The video image and audio quality are mediocre to poor; Leo rates the image
quality and audio at a 5.  Leo also has a VHS-cassette (two copies) of the
video of Five Miles Of You; 


-----Original Message-----
From: tv-owner@obbard.com [mailto:tv-owner@obbard.com] On Behalf Of leif
joley
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 1:50 PM
To: tv@obbard.com
Subject: (TV) Complete Spanish TV show

Was this known to the list?
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=E5788181CB47646E A Verlaine Madrid
show from '84, from start to finish. I remember seeing parts of it, but
didn't
knew that it was a full package like this.

Leif J, Sweden
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