RE: (TV) Blue Robe (vocal Version)

[Murray Ramone <murrayramone@hotmail.com>]

I dont really have a problem with television continuing without lloyd, as long
as they are doing new stuff that jimmy can contribute to. but to do marquee
moon is such a backwards looking thing it just doesnt work for a number of
reasons

1. ripp will only be compared unfavourably to lloyd - if he plays exactly what
lloyd does on the 
album, he's just copying, if he doesnt then "he's doing it
wrong
2. albums are designed to be listened to in the house, the running order you
play a gig is seldom the running order you'd use for an album
3. whats the point ? yes, its the best version of television you'll see, but
its not as satisfying as a new show would be with some oldies thrown in

I loved suicide when they did their first album in london, but thats because
it sounded nothing much like the original.

I'd go and see them if it was close by, and I'm sure I'd enjoy it, but if it
was billed as "Tom Verlaine Television" then I'd be more comfortable with it,
plus they could open it up and do more verlaine solo stuff.


> Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:01:27 -0700
> Subject: Re: (TV) Blue Robe (vocal Version)
> From: rexbroome@gmail.com
> To: tv@obbard.com
>
> Yeah, that and a nice alternate mix of "Always" were on the original
> Infinite Zero reissue of Dreamtime.  I'm so used to them being there that
> it's hard for me to think of them as obscure!
>
> I've decided to abstain from the "is it really Television without Lloyd"
> debate because it's just too much about semantics and I'd just get into
> making comparisons with other bands who have reformed in something other
> than their quintessential formulations, adding up to nothing conclusive.
>  It's up to the individual fan to make up their minds as long as they
> respect that others might have legitimately differing opinions.  I will
> admit I don't like to see Jimmy Rip getting pissed on just for not being
> Richard... he's contributed a lot to the semi-ongoing story of Tom's solo
> career, and as I enjoy that stuff I always welcome his participation.  A
> recreation of MM isn't the ideal deployment of his considerable talents,
no,
> but I don't think it's worth getting pissed off over. Lloyd wouldn't
> participate even if they asked him, sadly, so there it is.
>
> If it were local, I'd be there, though.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 4:17 PM, postitnote
<postitnote@sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>
> > Yeah, I have the Dreamtime promo cassette which has it on it by Infinite
> > Zero w/a green cover.  I got it off eBay and played it through like one
> > time and the tape broke. But it may have been my player as I hadn't
played
> > cassette tapes on it in ages.
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 4/20/13, Phil Obbard <pobbard@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Phil Obbard <pobbard@yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: Re: (TV) Blue Robe (vocal Version)
> > > To: "tv@obbard.com" <tv@obbard.com>
> > > Date: Saturday, April 20, 2013, 3:37 PM
> > > It's a neat alternate version.
> > >
> > > If memory serves, this was originally a
> > > b-side; then re-released on the Infinite Zero CD of
> > > DREAMTIME in 1994 but
> > > omitted from the more current CD release.
> > >
> > > --Phil
> > > ________________________________
> > >  From: postitnote <postitnote@sbcglobal.net>
> > > To: tv@obbard.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 5:41 PM
> > > Subject: Re: (TV)
> > > Blue Robe (vocal Version)
> > >
> > >
> > > Has everyone here heard this version of Blue
> > > Robe?  Some nice person has put it up on
> > > YouTube...here:
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kpEkWy2BUA
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