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RE: (TV) Television



What he said.

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From: tv-owner@obbard.com [mailto:tv-owner@obbard.com] On Behalf Of Jay
Pontrelli
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 1:06 AM
To: <tv@obbard.com>
Subject: (TV) Television

I hope nobody around here misunderstands my feelings about the band.

Truth be told it's A story of squandered genius and verlaines insane ego

Seriously ask yourself which song on the first two albums was the most
influential song had the greatest impact?  Was it Tom's stones influenced
songs?

No it was a modest song called days

The blueprint of REM's first two if not three albums very influential to the
go-betweens and extremely influential across-the-board going to the 80s and
forward for that type of music

Richard is the member of the band who anticipated and influenced a good
portion of the 80s--not Tom

I do not think that I am giving away any confidences to say that I spoke to
Richard and he's told me that he strongly pushed for television to tour up
and down the East Coast in 78 and Tom pushed back

The reason I have a problem with Verlane is because I've met many remains in
my life and they're not fun people to be around extremely controlling people
always hurt those who are around them

I understand why Billy and Fred and even rip are willing to bite their
tongue's because they probably don't have a lot of money and this is a way
to make a little bit of money but they are slaves to a crazy controlling
person who hasn't really shared much of his genius with us in 30 years

The funny thing is that when you see these guys play --whether it was Lloyd
back in the 90s or the early 2000's or rip now, you realize that most of the
solos were Richards

In my opinion the tragedy of television is that Richard was such a fucking
mess back then that he could rally nobody behind him, and Tom is such a
psychological manipulative person that he's always had Billy and Fred on his
side

I'm not saying that Richard hasn't been the author of his own destruction
because he has and I've seen him in person acting like a nut 

all I'm saying is that if Tom had not been such an ego maniac control freak
and had opened his mind television could've been huge

And as talented as rip is, and he is,I've seen enough television shows and
watched enough YouTube videos to see that he does not bring out the best of
Verlaine like Richard did

For me the best the original band has ever done since their first go around
was 1880 or so live

That is the essence of television





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