(TV) Re: TV Tribute, Beck "Midnite Vultures"

["SCOTT ALDRICH" <scott.aldrich@worldnet.att.net>]

Hey Mike and everyone,
Hope everyone had a good holiday. I've been playing on my own, slowly trying
to find something new to add to the songs. I figure when I get together with
Mike and Jackson we'll create our own dynamic so I'm not locking into
anything just yet.

I've heard Beck's new record and it sounds good. Mike's observation sounds
familiar to me. On "Mutations" there was a song, "O Maria"  that, to me,
sounded just like John Lennon's unreleased "Case Of The Blues", even the
line, sung to the same melody, "...Everybody knows...the fabric of
foll-y...", very similar to Lennon's, "Everyone knows...it's a case of the
blu-ues...". "Bottle of Blues" had that very Led Zeppelin "Houses of the
Holy"-sounding acoustic riff. Another song sounded to me just like "Such A
Night" by Dr. John. On "Odelay" there was that song that was an almost
over-the-top rip-off of the Stones' "The Last Time". I think this is a
response to sampling in hip-hop. To me that's always been a part of Beck's
schtick. His approach to pop music seems to be a lot about appropriation
from the canon of pop music. He's basically a folk writer with a blues
sensibility utilizing hip-hop techniques. He makes really interesting and
cool sounding pop records, but for me he's lacking some kind of soulfulness,
directness and urgency that I love in Dylan, the Kinks, the Velvets,
Television, Richard Thompson, and a myriad of others. I find Beck coldly
narcotic. Seductive but overly clever. Anyone else?

Also, Mike, what period is "The Countess of Hong Kong"?
Scott

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>From: "MICHAEL CARLUCCI" <subterraneannyc@mindspring.com>
>To: tv@obbard.com, tv@obbard.com
>Subject: Re: (TV) Verlaine in Portland Oregon
>Date: Mon, Dec 27, 1999, 8:33 PM
>

>     Has anyone started recording for the TV Tribute yet? I've just
> begun working out parts and trying to find the time to get together
> with Scott and Jackson to start recording for the new year sometime.
> Just wondering if there are any of that are into the recording process
> as of yet. I'm beginning to feel like a slouch for not having my parts
> worked out.
>
>     Anyone heard the new Beck LP yet? It's really good though there's one
> song that Lou Reed could sue him for. I can't recall the song's title, but
> if any if you are familiar with the Velvet Undergroud track "The Countess
> Of Hong Kong" well ol' Beck has taken the riff, the melody, and the basic
> song structure and renamed the tune. Like a kid of his talent needs to do
> this.
> Maybe he's not as talented as I think he is. Anyone? M T C
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>>From: Joe Hartley <jh@brainiac.com>
>>To: tv@obbard.com
>>Subject: Re: (TV) Verlaine in Portland Oregon
>>Date: Mon, Dec 27, 1999, 8:08 PM
>>
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>>Howard Webb <howard@lasercomp.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> (ps am i the first posting on the list's new home?)
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