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Re: (TV) rap-beat of the street/beat of the heart..it's B-E-A-T....../ Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.....pining for the 70's.



Michael's posting shows an admirable generosity and makes me want to 
reevaluate my rash pronouncement that rap "blows". There certainly is a lot
of music I know zilch about, and, yup, rap is one. The temptation in this
medium to blurt out strong opinions is hard to pass up sometimes,
knowing/hoping it will provoke a discussion just like this one. I'll try to
listen with more open ears in the future. This has definitely been a thought
provoking argument.
Scott

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>From: "ray" <ray@wavewalker.freeserve.co.uk>
>To: <tv@obbard.com>
>Subject: Re: (TV) rap-beat of the street/beat of the heart..it's B-E-A-T....../
Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.....pining for the 70's.
>Date: Sun, Jan 9, 2000, 6:34 PM
>

> Well said Michael !
> This debate has inadvertently opened a REAL can of worms....I've been very
> surprised (even shocked) by some of the comments I've read over the last
> couple of days.It will certainly make me look on the future posts of some
> people on the list in a new light!....I'm very glad that i resisted the urge
> (mostly)to reply to some of the more rabid postings...no easy feat....anyway
> here's a final thought in an attempt to lighten proceedings somewhat...Puff
> Daddy covering
> "Yonki Time"   :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MICHAEL CARLUCCI <subterraneannyc@mindspring.com>
> To: tv@obbard.com <tv@obbard.com>; tv@obbard.com <tv@obbard.com>
> Date: 09 January 2000 21:42
> Subject: Re: (TV) rap
>
>
>>    Maybe because most of those who don't really listen to rap or
>>contemporary R&B, hip-hop and the like hate "Rap" and seem to lump
>>all the catagories together. There are big differences in all genre's.
>>It's like saying that Smokey Robinson and James Brown both played soul
>>music or that Funkadelic and The Temptations were R&B. I've always felt
>>that H A T E is a very strong word. How can you hate something or someone
>>that
>>you do not understand? I may not like what Lou Reed does these days but I
>>certainly do not hate him. I have no reason to. I'll give him credit for
>>staying alive, getting great guitar sounds, and even still being active.
>>Now all he has to do is remember how to sing again like he use to when
>>he was in the Velvets. He seems to have for gotten that. Ever since Walk On
>>The
>>Wild Side he's been talking his way thru his LP's. I'm getting off track
>>here.
>>I just wish that before people would dismiss Rap that they'd at least know
>>it first. Like with classical music. I can't comment either way on
> classical
>>or Jazz really for that matter because I really don't know either genre
> well
>>enough. Neither one interests me enough, but I would never say that they're
>>not
>>any good or that it's garbage. Have all the neigh-sayers really listened to
>>rap music or have they just heard the raps and turned it off saying, Oh I
>>hate
>>rap music. I'm really curious about this. To lump Lauryn Hill in with
> Public
>>
>>Enemy is ludicrous, they're at different ends of the spectrum. Give me
>>Lauryn
>>any day over Whitney Houston and her "Aye ye aye ye yah" screechings any
>>day.
>>At least Lauryn's keeping it at the street level which is what I've always
>>preferred in my musical taste. That's how TV, Voidoids, and Patti made an
>>impression on me. Street level rock with a thinkman's approach. Not an easy
>>thing to do without complicating matters. Sorry for all this babbling. H A
> T
>>E
>>words often do this to me. Thanks for the forum. M T C
>
>
>
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