RE: (TV) 2 cents on Rap/dissing Richard.

[Eric Gregory <egregory@standard.com>]

i dig what yr saying in re: junkies & hell seems to be pretty honest with
what junk did to his trajectory.
& to be perfectly blunt, based on "go now" & "the voidoid", i'd say hell's
an awfully mediocre novelist.
& his poetry's only slightly better.
however, as a rock & roller, he's the shit.
great songs, great phrasing, great look.
i don't need to go into the ramifications & importance of "style" in rock &
roll (i'm a little sick of the postmodernist huffing & puffing that poses as
rock crit these days), but hell had a look & he created it, lived it, sang
it, made it his life.
& the "look" was just as important to yr vaunted jazz scene (particularly
bebop).
the smack was an obnoxious & boring detour & perhaps it derailed hell for
good, but i know that BLANK GENERATION, "don't die" & yeah, even DESTINY
STREET, all contributed to what i am today & they sure as shit showed me
that writers who were tired of the publishing/spoken word scene could make
their words fucking explode.

& from where i stand, verlaine needs a cat like hell to loosen his sphincter
a bit.
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-----Original Message-----
From: jpg [mailto:jpg@sirius.com]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 10:47 AM
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Subject: Re: (TV) 2 cents on Rap/dissing Richard.


Perhaps I was a little closer to the scene.  Let me be blunt. I see no
genius
in being a junkie. The scene was riddled with junkie poseurs. In other words
they were spending more time getting high than working on their art or
craft.
To this day I can't help but " see through" what others may consider art or
genius. I believe there is some a world of difference between an artiste and
an
artist. Hell, Thunders, etc. were merely acting out. Had they really worked
at
their craft perhaps their art would have matured.
Hell to me symbolizes more nostalgia.
On the other hand I feel Verlaine is still growing.

Eric Gregory wrote:

> i think the "substance" obviously came in the words & maybe not so
obviously
> with his delivery.
> i certainly don't begrudge you yr opinion.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jpg [mailto:jpg@sirius.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 8:56 AM
> To: tv@obbard.com
> Subject: Re: (TV) 2 cents on Rap/dissing Richard.
>
> With all due respect I did listen to him. Like you said he had style at
the
> expense of substance. But at some point there has to be substance.
>
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