RE: (TV) Sweet's picks for guitar, guitarists make a difference

[Eric Gregory <egregory@standard.com>]

i'd say lloyd deserves a hell of a lot of credit for not being afraid to
play a mean rhythm guitar & to play support to verlaine,,,same goes for ivan
julien.
alotta the verlaine/quine/n young/r thompson-inspired "lead" guitarists i've
known & played with never seem to grasp the idea that the rhythm is the
fundamental....
not accusing verlaine or quine (esp. not quine) of perpetual doodling, but
it seems they've spawned legions of said lead men. 

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-----Original Message-----
From: AndrewMFC@aol.com [mailto:AndrewMFC@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 11:32 AM
To: tv@obbard.com
Subject: Re: (TV) Sweet's picks for guitar, guitarists make a difference


I knew my hypothetical ordering of the three gods of New York might arouse 
some interest!  I did that deliberately, actually  ;-).  It's a funny 
thing... as a struggling crap guitarist myself, I look at Verlaine and Quine

and say "Jesus, these guys are incredible," but dismiss entirely the idea 
that I could ever competently mimic their work, especially the lead parts.  
With Lloyd though, I tend to think," what a great part he plays there -- 
fucking perfect -- I wish I knew TO play that!"  which to me is quite a 
different proposition from "I wish I COULD play that."   Esoteric
distinction 
perhaps, but one I find myself making all the time.
To be honest, Tom Verlaine is like Paganini to me -- an absolute virtuoso, 
and with apologies to Andy Gill, hands down my favorite rock instrumentalist

ever.  But I still want to sound like Lloyd!  Odd?  probably....

Andrew

n a message dated 01/28/2000 11:39:47 AM Central Standard Time, 
scott.aldrich@worldnet.att.net writes:

> I agree it would be a better world if Sweet had made those choices(and
more
>  appropriate, since he has used 2 out of 3 on his own records - not to
>  disparage the ones he did choose, of course, they're great to be sure),  
but
>  I'm just curious, you'd put Lloyd on top of Quine and Verlaine? I think
>  Lloyd's a great player, no doubt, but I would argue he has not had as
>  profound an impact on lead guitar as either Verlaine or Quine. I love his
>  playing (been listening to "Alchemy" and Sweet's "Altered Beast" all day
>  today in fact-great stuff), but when I hear Tom or Quine, to me they
sound
>  like almost noone else. What do you think?
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