Re: (TV) Wayne County first at CBGBs?

["MICHAEL CARLUCCI" <subterraneannyc@mindspring.com>]

    The reason I responded to this was someone asked what went on back then.
That was the deal, you either played Max's or you played CB's, you couldn't
play both
clubs. It has nothing to do with comparisons or high school competition. It
has to do with the way it was, which I had nothing to do. I didn't make the
rules,
Peter and Hilly did. So you were either a Max's band or a CBGB's band. And
yes,
I was in high school then. I think I'm entitled to reminisce a bit, aren't
I?
M T C
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>From: "Nick Powell" <nick@powelln.freeserve.co.uk>
>To: <tv@obbard.com>
>Subject: Re: (TV) Wayne County first at CBGBs?
>Date: Mon, Jan 31, 2000, 4:16 PM
>

>Michael
>If you don't 'care who the hell Wayne County is' why you getting so worked
>up about it?
>Sorry but your argument sounds a bit childish to me--'you couldn't be both,
>you were either one or the other'--christ we used to argue about whether we
>were Sids or Johnnys--but that was in school!
>
>As for the stage--most of the best gigs I've ever been to have been in clubs
>with little or no stage.
>
>Chill out a bit.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: MICHAEL CARLUCCI <subterraneannyc@mindspring.com>
>To: <tv@obbard.com>
>Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 11:51 PM
>Subject: Re: (TV) Wayne County first at CBGBs?
>
>
>>     Sounds like this person's a heterophobe. Like anyone cares who the
>hell
>> Wayne County is and what he accomplished. Sure they were fun rock and
>roll,
>> but there was enough of that goin' on already with the New York Dolls who
>> did it before and obviously a whole lot better than W/Jayne County. Who
>> cares
>> who played CBGB's first? If it's that imporant then we better find out
>which
>> "C"ountry, "B"lue"G"rass, and "B"lues bands played there before all the
>rock
>> bands got there. All I care about is Television's first appear at CBGB's.
>>  If the truth be told, Wayne County didn't last at CB's, he ended up
>> being a Max's act. You couldn't be both, you were either one or the other.
>> So even though WC may have been the first "Punk" band to play CBGB's, he
>> didn't
>> stay around long enough to help create the scene that would end up
>happening
>> there. He did it at "Max's" as his song well tells the tale. Television
>> takes
>> responsibility only for revamping the club soundsystem and stage. There
>was
>> no stage until Television came along. Before that, you played at floor
>level
>> with the audience. Such pettiness. M T C
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>> >From: Howard Webb <howard@lasercomp.demon.co.uk>
>> >To: "'marquee moon mailing list'" <tv@obbard.com>
>> >Subject: (TV) Wayne County first at CBGBs?
>> >Date: Sat, Jan 29, 2000, 5:48 PM
>> >
>>
>> >Howdy folks,
>> >
>> >Someone called jimi lalumia has written in my guestbook that Wayne County
>> >was the first person to play CBGBs.
>> >
>> >Does anyone know about this? Here is what he wrote in my guestbook
>> >http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/7784/geobook.html
>> >
>> >-Howard
>> >
>> >from:
>> >jimi lalumia - 01/29/00 01:36:37
>> >
>> >Comments:
>> >hate to break the news to you, but wayne(now jayne)county was the first
>of
>> >the ny rockers to play cbgb's in dec 73,as detailed in the new patti
>smith
>> >unauthorized biography, and verified by hilly krystal himself.telvision
>> >played in the spring of 74, and revisionist homophobes have tried to
>> >rewrite history, we have begun to unravel this nasty web/having said all
>> >that, television is a great band, they don't need to lie and claim an
>> >accomplishment that is not theirs to claim. wayne county brought ny rock
>to
>> >the bowery first, and that's the facts!
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