Re: (TV) Hell v. Lloyd

["MICHAEL CARLUCCI" <subterraneannyc@mindspring.com>]

    You need to go back a few days where every junkie was useless. Hack is
truly unfair. If you take a look back about 25 years ago, Hell created
something
in music that were it not for him may not have been there. It wasn't just
the music.
It was the poetry, it was the posters that he designed, and his own clothes
which
he designed that largely influenced the British Punk Rock Movement. Not to
mention
that he was involved just as much as any other member of Television in
creating
a music scene at CBGB's. So yes, he may have been a junkie, now a recovered 
addict, but hardly a hack. Helldefender, M T C

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>From: jpontrelli@nallmiller.com
>To: tv@obbard.com
>Subject: (TV) Hell v. Lloyd
>Date: Mon, Feb 28, 2000, 6:07 PM
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>Why would JPG rip into Lloyd because he was a heroin addict simply because 
>he has a low opinion of Hell.  Unless I'm missing something, the whole 
>point is that JPG believes certain untalented hacks or one trick ponies are 
>held in too high of esteem by fans and that the heroin chic might have 
>something to do with that.    While Lloyd may have been a junkie for a 
>while, there should be little  dispute that he is also a tremendous talent 
>who has "been through a field of fire" and lived to be relevant and 
>significant right now--something no one can say about Hell with a straight 
>face!  I think the real point is that Hell is a hack and I don't disagree 
>with that point.  I do, however, disagree with JPG's suggestion that Arthur 
>Lee was a three chord wonder with little talent.  Arthur Lee was brilliant. 
> So, I agree with the larger point, and agree with its particular 
>application to Hell but disagree with it's particular application to Arthur 
>Lee.  And, Mr. C, I don't think there is !
>any danger of this list ever going down the babel path.
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