Re: (TV) i mean cookies

[eric s gregory <esgregory@uswest.net>]

all right.
now i gotta pipe in...
even if "horses" & esp. "radio ethiopia" hadn't slammed,
shaped & enlightened my existence as profoundly as they did,
i'd still argue that "horses" was a pathfinding lp of the
highest sort...sure, she & the band (a crucial component)
were contributing to a tradition already laid out, escalated
& pretty much defined by a host of other (almost entirely
testosterone-based) poets & would-be seers (dylan, morrison,
reed, iggy, shit, even cats like serpent power)...but there
was something so untamed, so unhinged, wild even...suppose
you could call it "punk"...about those 1st 2 records...she
eventually reified the schtick in to something more
"traditional" (tho yr right, scott..."easter" &
"wave"...hell, every one of her records has its moments),
tho no less powerful than anything reed, morrison, et al
(i'll keep dylan out of here as i'm becoming more & more
convinced he's so far beyond everybody else at this point)
have done.
& to use the cars by way of analogy is a little silly....i
mean, yeah the cars had some groovy little numbers but they
never took as many risks, never stretched rock & roll's
defining boundaries...christ, they never had such a
libidinal explosiveness...
  

"Philip P. Obbard" wrote:
> 
> I'm not bashing her. I just think she's overrated - that lots of other great
> albums are actually more compelling but lack the "female ranting artist" angle.
> I like plenty of her songs, but I also like plenty of Cars songs, and I don't
> think they deserve a Top 100 album, either.
> 
> BTW, "Break It Up" began life as a Television song - in the Richard Hell days -
> with a completely different set of lyrics (including the first line of
> "Friction" before that song existed!)
> 
> --Philip
> 
> --- SCOTT ALDRICH <scott.aldrich@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > Before you all start bashing Patti Smith, Horses and Radio Ethiopia are
> > great records, and Wave and Easter are very strong.  Break It Up is a
> > beautiful Verlaine and Patti collaboration.  Ain't It Strange is pretty
> > twisted, and "Free Money", is just glorious, as is "Land".
> 
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