Not Hallucinating / RE: (TV) 4th Album

["Leo Casey" <LeoCasey@comcast.net>]

Russ wrote, ".., I was watching that old footage of them  rehearsing in Ork's  loft, and I
swear I saw them doing an *early,early* version  'Postcard from
 Waterloo' with Lloyd singing. Was I hallucinating or was that  what I heard?"

No you were not hallucinating.

On the Ork Loft DVD at 60:02 is a song called 'What I Heard'.  Several years ago on the 'other'
Television List Keith wrote:  

"Although Verlaine's song, 'Without A Word', on Dreamtime, uses some of the basic musical
structure as the song, 'Hard On Love' below, they are not the same song--on the other hand, the
structure and melody of 'What I Heard' would eventually become Verlaine's song 'Postcard From
Waterloo' from his album Words From The Front.".  

Note from Leo:  There are also two separate concert versions of 'What I Heard'.  The first
appear on the Carried Away cd-rs "August 28 Or 29 Or 30 Or 31, 1974, Max's Kansas City, NYC"
and " 'Poor Circulation':  Winter And Spring 1974 Rehearsals; And August 28 Or 29 Or 30 Or 31,
1974, Max's Kansas City, NYC; And January 17, 1975, CBGB, NYC; And March 1975, CBGB, NYC".  

The second appears on the Carried Away cd-r " 'UFO':  January 17, 1975, CBGB, NYC".    


"He did what we all do.  
He went about his dull routine 
as if all the days in the world 
were still to come".
 



Russ wrote> (OMG - most of that Ork stuff was primitive!) I think some of 
> Richard's song
> would lend themself nicely to a Television rendition: "Field of Fire",
> "Ain't it Time",  "I just wanted you to know" (? think that's 
> the title) and
> "Alchemy" would all sound great with the two guitar treatment.
> 
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Joe Hartley <jh@brainiac.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:49:09 -0600
> > Russ <russvr@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > A Television record without Lloyd? I'm not really sure it 
> could be called
> > > so...but one that included both Lloyd and Rip would be cool!
> >
> > Sure would, both are excellent guitarists that bring 
> different things
> > to the table.
> >
> > > Television has always been about the interplay of two 
> guitars...but so
> > > have,for the most part, Tom Verlaine's solo efforts. 
> Whose solo sound is
> > > more in line with the Television sound in general? I'd have to say
> > Verlaine.
> >
> > Definitely Verlaine.  I love Richard's solo stuff but it's 
> always had a
> > very different feel to it.  That's consistent with 
> Richard's view that
> > Television has always been Tom's band playing Tom's songs.  
> Richard might
> > add parts, and some songs are more collaborative, but to my 
> knowledge
> > Television never recorded a song that Richard wrote and 
> brought to the
> > table.
> >
> > --
> > 
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