Re: Now cast. Re: (TV) "CGBG": New talents casted; still no Verlaine

[Ty Burr <tyburr@comcast.net>]

Re good rock docs, one of my favorites is "New York Doll," about Arthur Kane and his latter-day years with the Mormons. Highly recommended.

On Jun 17, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Bob Beatty wrote:

> I didn't want to see ''I'm Not There'' just  'cause I read how it was so
> veracity-challenged, & eccentric in concept. I love the soundtrack though!
> Re.
> ''Control'':  I didn't even know a Joy Division docu-drama had been made. I
> was a big JD fan in the '80s. I did see & liked ''Walk the Line'', & saw
> ''Twenty-four Hour Party People'' when  it came out, & did enjoy it too, but
> in general, I prefer seeing  well-made documentaries about peopleor bands I
> like, instead of  docu-dramas often more fiction than fact.I thought it
> puzzling how ''Twenty-four Hour Party People'' handled Ian Curtis' suicide. If
> I recall correctly (it was a long time ago) , there was one short scene of
> maybe less than a minuteshowing a noose & his suicide, but with no context
> offered, no ''post-mortem'' or ''pre-mortem'' explaining why it may have
> happened (i.e. breakup of his marriage). Odd.
> ________________________________
> From: Ty Burr <tyburr@comcast.net>
> To:
> tv@obbard.com 
> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 8:03:21 AM
> Subject: Re: Now cast.
> Re: (TV) "CGBG": New talents casted; still no   Verlaine
> 
> I'll stick up for
> Todd Haynes' "I'm Not There," his meditation on Dylan. True to the
> through-line and meaning of the singer's career while playing intentionally
> fast and loose with the facts. But that movie's the exception rather than the
> rule.
> 
> On Jun 17, 2012, at 10:36 AM, postitnote wrote:
> 
>> I thought the film
> 'Control' about Ian Curtis/Joy Division was great.  And the actor who played
> Ian was really spot on.
>> 
>> 
>> --- On Sat, 6/16/12, Rex Broome
> <rexbroome@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> From: Rex Broome <rexbroome@gmail.com>
>>> 
> Subject: Re: Now cast. Re: (TV) "CGBG": New talents casted; still no  Verlaine
>>> To: tv@obbard.com
>>> Date: Saturday, June 16, 2012, 8:56 PM
>>> On Sat, Jun
> 16, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Bob
>>> Beatty <bobjb2002@yahoo.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I
> like
>>>> documentaries bettter than
>>>> docu-dramas, 'cause the fictionalized
> ones are
>>>> virtually certain to be
>>>> full distortion, misinformation, &
>>>> mis-characterization about people & what 
>>> happened.They're typically
>>>> geared to
>>>> entertain with drama, instead of trying to be true to
>>> 
> facts. Not that
>>>> documentaries always
>>>> get facts right, but they stand a
> better chance.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gotta tend to agree.  In a way it's puzzling that
>>> 
> docu-dramas keep getting
>>> made because very few of them are either
> commercially or
>>> artistically
>>> successful.  The ones that are tend to be
> about stuff
>>> that's well and truly
>>> in the past (I dunno, Patton? 
> Lawrence of Arabia?)...
>>> Is there a single
>>> fictionalized rock movie about
> real events that's generally
>>> liked?  The
>>> Buddy Holly Story, maybe, and
> maybe but a little less so,
>>> Walk the Line?
>>> Pretty slim pickings.
>>> 
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