(TV) Vanity Fair Redux / It would take Masterpiece Theater / RE: (TV) Vanity Fair/lost album

["Leo Casey" <LeoCasey@comcast.net>]

I am a member of the school of thought that the upcoming CBGB movie will be
a total fiasco; with that many characters and only 100-120 minutes there's
no way they could do CBGBs or any of its characters justice.  To do any kind
of a good (and interesting) treatment would require something like a 10
episode Masterpiece Theater (PBS) deal with each Episode 2 hours.  That's
the only way there would be time for Verlaine to utter anything other than,
"The press deserves nothing but lies".

Definitive Cliff McLenehan quote on the "The Lost Album"/Bascombe
Sessions/"The London B-Sides" below: 

Cliff McLenehan, on August 1, 2002, responded to Brian Young's above e-mail
(although Cliff mistakenly 
thought the copy of the cd-r that Brian owned derived from Cliff's copy,
when in fact, Brian's cd-r was simply a 
copy of Philip's 'Vanity Fair'):  "Well I'm really glad that this tape
[Cliff's] has now become available to all and 
sundry.  Just as long as TV doesn't get on the phone. 

"The original tape, which was given to me by a mystery man and featured the
following material:

Sixteen Tulips
The Scientist Writes A Letter (Version 1)
The Scientist Writes A Letter (Version 2)
Caveman Flashlight
Vanity Fair (short version)
Ah, Lee (real title not known)
One Time At Sundown (Version 1)
Anna
Vanity Fair (long version)
Anna (repeat of previous version)
Synth Piece 1 (from the Anna  recording)
Synth piece 2 (from the Anna recording)
Call Me The
One Time At Sundown (Version 2)

"The tape is quite clearly not the complete set of sessions as 'Circling'
and 'Smoother Than Jones'  weren't on it.  

" 'The Scientist Writes A Letter (Version 2)' is known as the 'Paris
version'.  'One Time At Sundown (Version 
2)' is known as 'The London 1986 Version'.  'The Scientist Writes A Letter
(Version 1)' appears to be the same  
[sic] as the [Flash Light] album version, though it clocks in at 5:21, and
contains the spoken passage, which 
appears in 'The Paris' version. 

" 'One Time At Sundown (Version 1)' also appears to be the album version,
but it too is longer than the officially released version, clocking in at
4:44.  The 'short' version of 'Vanity Fair' is the same as the long one
except that it fades much early, clocking in at 2:55.".

-----Original Message-----
From: tv-owner@obbard.com [mailto:tv-owner@obbard.com] On Behalf Of Phil
Obbard
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 1:41 PM
To: tv@obbard.com
Subject: Re: (TV) Vanity Fair/lost album

Hi all,

You know this is a favorite topic of mine...

We don't know what
would have been on the "lost" album; we know at least 2 tracks from FLASH
LIGHT were recorded there ("One Time at Sundown", subsequently re-recorded,
and "The Scientist Writes a Letter", one version of which made it to FLASH
LIGHT and another came out as a b-side). We know at least one good track
never
made it to a b-side and still sits in the vaults ("Ah Lee", which appears on
more recent copies of the VANITY FAIR comp), so it's possible more tracks
were
recorded in 1986 but not re-recorded for FLASH LIGHT or released as b-sides
during the 1987-1990 period. If the only material that was recorded for the
"lost" album is the stuff that appears on VANITY FAIR, then I think Fontana
probably made the right call -- FLASH LIGHT is the slightly stronger album.
But I also wouldn't be surprised to learn that there was more stuff in the
vaults in 1986, although I think the chance of hearing it anytime soon is
very, very remote... 

I agree that quite a few strong tracks came out of
those sessions, though, "Anna", "Vanity Fair", "Call Me The", and the 2 that
appeared on FLASH LIGHT among them. 

To Rex's point below, the VANITY FAIR
tracks that did not appear on CD (and were taken from vinyl or, in one case,
from a circulating cassette) are:

"Caveman - Flashlight", "Circling", "One
Time at Sundown (1986 London Version)", "Marquee Moon (Live)" -- vinyl

"The
Scientist Writes a Letter (Paris Version)", "Ah Lee" -- cassette

"Vanity
Fair" has appeared once on CD -- it was one of the CD single b-sides from
THE
WONDER, I believe.

--Phil




________________________________
 From: Rex
Broome <rexbroome@gmail.com>
To: tv@obbard.com 
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012
11:22 AM
Subject: Re: (TV) Vanity Fair/lost album
 
The lost album is
definitely a kind of tragedy... almost all of it is out
there to be heard, but
it can never be completely extricated from Flash
Light, and that's a double
shame because Flash Light is so great as well.

It would be nice to know, some
day and somehow, if there are any other
tracks from those sessions which have
yet to surface.  The idea of a
"deluxe reissue" of Flash Light with all the
lost stuff is obviously a pure
fantasy, but it sure would be cool... I'm
pretty sure "Caveman -
Flashlight", "Smoother Than Jones", "Circling" and
"Vanity Fair" have never
been released on CD in any form.

On Sun, Jun 17,
2012 at 8:12 AM, postitnote <postitnote@sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> I was
listening to the cobbled together lost album/Vanity Fair.  One of
> Tom's best
songs is "Anna" imo.  And personally I also love that song
> "Circling".  I
know that this album was rejected by Fontana and they used
> some of the songs
as b-sides to singles.  I may have read this before and
> forgot but what was
the reason that Fontana rejected it?  They just didn't
> think it was up to
par?
>
> I just find it amazing that a song as good "Anna" didn't show up on
one of
> Tom's solo albums.  I know it's on the Miller's Tale but that's just
a
> compilation album, plus I believe Tom said that that album was put out
>
without his approval.
>
> D.
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