Chicago 2001 'M M' / RE: (TV) The 20 Longest Live Versions Of The Song 'Marquee Moon' / 1 Big Mistake & 3 Typos / Will Send Corrected Ver. to Television-Group

["Leo Casey" <LeoCasey@comcast.net>]

Philip wrote 2 weeks ago:

> un-scientifically always thought the May 10, 2001 show featured one of the
> longest performances of "Marquee Moon", what with the mid-crescendo 
> >breakdown, but I guess not. Sigh.

Well, if it provides you any solace, that Chicago show (aka: "May 10, 2001,
The Metro Chicago, Illinois-The Complete And Best Sounding Version-(From
Three Different Sources) Aka 'The Metro Upgrade 3-Source Matrix'-LOSSY
Mini-Disc1!"  has a 'Marquee Moon' of  14:47.6 just song itself (the track
containing it is: 16:19.8), and of all the versions less than 15 min. I
believe it's the 2nd longest.

By the way, there was one serious mistake and 3 bad typos in my 4 Part:  The
20 Longest Live Versions of 'M M' (but nobody noticed :>) except maybe
Keith):

1) #19 was incorrect: I.e., 19)** " 'Live In Brazil': October 23, 2005, The
TIM Festival, The Modern Art Museum (MAM), Rio de Janeiro, Brazil-The DIME
Version-DVD15". 'Swells'-like Instrumental Intro (1:28.1; but a 0.7 drop-out
from 0:21.7 - 0:22.4)/Marquee Moon (16:30.5 just the song; however, last
1:20.0 is 'Swells'-redux. So, 'M M' only 15:10.5). There is no long,
'jazzy', improvised section of 'M M' at Television shows.

*** I forgot to subtract *both* Swells' from the Brazil 'M M':  
Marquee Moon/Swells2redux (17:17.2 total track; 16:23.2 just the songs
'Swells1' + 'Marquee Moon' + 'Swells2'; 'only' ***13:38.7*** just 'Marquee
Moon' itself since 'Swells1' is 1:24.8 and 'Swells2redux! is 1:19.6) 

So, the 19th longest 'M M' has been replaced by:
19) "October 22 [sic], 1982 [Actually July 8, 1982], The Peppermint Lounge,
NYC": 'Marquee Moon' (15:08.3 is just the song itself). 

2) The original version of the paragraph below that was sent to the M M
Mailing List had three egregious TYPOS (corrections now marked with triple
asterisk ***) My results and methodology were correct; these were just
sloppy transcription errors in my typing.

"Here are details on the non-faded-out guitar-crescendo-ending version of
'Marquee Moon' on the 2003 Remastered cd of Marquee Moon: The .wav file of
the track has 0.3 sec. of lead-in silence; so 0.3 sec. needs to be
subtracted from any particular elapsed time of Total Recorder. The
guitar-crescendo aka a 'swell' occurs at 10:27.7 (i.e., at elapsed time
10:28.0 minus the 0.3 sec. silent lead-in). By 10:32.0 (i.e., at elapsed
time 10:32.3 minus 0.3 sec.), the guitar crescendo has been slowly decaying
for 4.3 sec. allowing the emergence of repeating and tinkling piano notes (a
Verlaine dub). Despite its decay, the guitar-crescendo continues to
reverberate faintly, then ghostly until at 10:40.2 (i.e., at elapsed time
10:40.5 minus 0.3 sec.), after a total of 12.5 sec., the guitar's
reverberation can no longer be heard over the still tinkling piano. The
piano, itself, has grown weaker and weaker until at ***10:41.4*** [NOT
10:41.2] (i.e., at elapsed time  ***10:41.7*** minus 0.3 sec.)[not (i.e., at
elapsed time 10:41.5 minus 0.3 sec.)], after a total of ***9.4 sec.*** [NOT
9.2 sec.] sec. of piano, there is total silence. 

Since there are several members of the Television-Group who do not subscribe
to the M M Moon Mailing List, I will be sending my 4 Part The 24 Longest
Live Versions Of The Song 'Marquee Moon' to the Television-Group shortly
with the Brazil error and the 3 Typos fixed and 21st thru 24th longest
versions added.  (Albeit the Television-Group seems pretty moribund; maybe
this will jolt them into action. :>) )


Leo
  -----Original Message-----
From: tv-owner@obbard.com [mailto:tv-owner@obbard.com] On Behalf Of Phil
Obbard
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 10:11 AM
To: tv@obbard.com
Subject: Re: (TV) The 20 Longest Live Versions Of The Song 'Marquee Moon'

Part 4, with all of the details about Total Recorder, including
testimonials, might be my favorite part of all. Wow.

That being, I un-scientifically always
thought the May 10, 2001 show featured one of the longest performances of
"Marquee Moon", what with the mid-crescendo breakdown, but I guess not.
Sigh.
Leo, to think that I spent my snow day just shoveling and trying to keep the
kids from going crazy!

--Phil



________________________________
 From:
Keith Allison <keith@thewonder.co.uk>
To: tv@obbard.com 
Sent: Monday,
February 11, 2013 5:52 AM
Subject: (TV) The 20 Longest Live Versions Of The
Song 'Marquee Moon'
 
On 09/02/2013 06:06, Leo Casey wrote:
> Technical Note 1: A Cesium Atomic Clock Was Used To Measure the Lengths of
> Versions of 'M M'
> 
>  
> A 'cesium atomic clock' is a device that uses as a reference the
exact> frequency of the microwave spectral line emitted by atoms of the
metallic > element cesium, in particular its isotope of atomic weight 133
(Cs-133). The > integral of frequency is time, so this frequency,
9,192,631,770 hertz (Hz = > cycles/second), provides the fundamental unit of
time, i.e., 1 second, which > may thus be measured by cesium clocks.

Leo, I would expect no less...!

A fine, fine piece of detective work/obsessive
behaviour. Congratulations!

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