Re: Mazzy & Ms Sectert X / RE: (TV) Not so familiar Verlaine favourites

[Bob Beatty <bobjb2002@yahoo.ca>]

Ah, so it was SecretX  who posted that Tom likes Mazzy Star. Thanks Leo for
that info. After reading a bunch of SecretX's  posts,  she sounded pretty
credible re. being Tom's ex gf, & in the details of supposed facts she wrote
about him. I don't doubt her story. Other than Tom himself, who else would
know better what bands he likes than a gf?
-Bob
________________________________
 From: Leo Casey <LeoCasey@comcast.net>
To:
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Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:57:07 AM
Subject: Mazzy & Ms
Sectert X / RE: (TV) Not so familiar Verlaine  favourites
 

Ms SecretX in an
e-mail once said Tom liked Mazzy Star; I have never seen an
interview in which
Tom himself said he liked Mazzy Star.

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From:
tv-owner@obbard.com [mailto:tv-owner@obbard.com] On Behalf Of Glenn
Cooper
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:00 PM
To: tv@obbard.com
Subject: Re: (TV) Not
so familiar Verlaine favourites

Bob, I dare say it's the same interview re
being asked about Sailor's Life
and his other comments re Thompson's Fender --
if only I could
remember WHICH interview it was!!

Funny that you should
mention Mazzy Star -- I just got into her lately,
after hearing "Into Dust" on
an episode of Californication. Some really
good melancholy stuff. I don't
recall Tom ever saying he was into Mazzy,
though. Of course, he may well have,
but it's news to me. :)

Glenn C.

On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Bob
Beatty <bobjb2002@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> I'll corroborate what Amilcar says re.
Richard Thompson, as I
> recall the
> interview where Tom commented on Richard
Thompson, saying he
> liked his Fender
> sound but didn't like Thompson's
playing style. I tried
>  to locate the article
> today to cite it, but
couldn't find it easily. Of
>  course,  there's lots more
> going on with
Fairport Convention than just
> Thompson's guitar that Tom could
> like.
>
>
I'd not heard  the excellent "A Sailor's Life" before. Thanks to Glen
> for
the YT link. I might not have noticed similarities to M.M. without
them
>
being pointed out.
> I hear echoes of the song Marquee Moon in a number of
Sonic
> Youth songs, "Rain on Tin" being just one. And Thurston has described
> Television as being "elemental" to SY's sound, by which I guess he means
>
there's an element of Television influence.
>
> Tom supposedly named Mazzy
Star
> as a band he likes. Knowing I'm a Mazzy Star fan, Deb once pointed out
a
> post
> to me from the MM List archives from some years back she noticed
where
> someone
> had posted that Tom "likes Joy Division & Mazzy Star." I'd
read  an
> interview
> where Tom said He likes "Joy Division's stuff with that
singer, before he
> took
> the cure". So I knew that was accurate, but the
Mazzy Star reference was
> new.
> Does anyone else here recall Tom citing
Mazzy Star as fave band, I wonder?
> If
> it's true, I'll guess Tom might like
the band for similar reasons he said
> he
> likes The Pretenders, i.e.'cause
Chrissie Hynde's "a good singer" &
> "there's a
> melodic gift there".  Maybe
Tom thinks, as I do, Mazzy's singer, Hope
> Sandoval, has a rare talent for
writing & delivering emotive melodies.
> Perhaps
> Tom's a McGarrigle Sisters
fan for similar reasons.
> -Bob
> ________________________________
>  From:
amilcar amarante
> <amilcaramarante2002@yahoo.com.ar>
> To: "tv@obbard.com"
<tv@obbard.com>
> Sent:
> Sunday, April 21, 2013 4:20:48 PM
> Subject: Re:
(TV) Not so familiar Verlaine
>  favourites
>
>
> he even said once that he
didn4t like Thompson4s playing ,only
> his "Fender "
> sound ...
> i remenber
because i like Thompson a lot...
>
>
>
> AMILCAR
> AMARANTE
>
http://temper.bandcamp.com
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> De:
>
Glenn
> Cooper <glennwaynecooper@gmail.com>
> Para: tv@obbard.com
> Enviado:
>
domingo, 21
> de abril de 2013 18:29
> Asunto: Re: (TV) Not so familiar
Verlaine
> favourites
> Well, of course there are similarities between
Fairport's "A
> Sailor's Life"
> and "Marquee Moon". Tom was once asked if the
former had been
> an influence
> on
> the construction of that song and he
replied, No, that he
> hadn't heard
> that
> song at the time of MM's
composition.
>
> A Sailor's Life
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szrGtFxtWXU
>
> It is a masterpiece.
>
> Glenn C.
> On
> 22/04/2013 6:40 AM, leif joley
wrote:
> > I was "late at the ball", as we say
> in
> Swedish, and didn't buy
me any Nick
> > Drake records until today. So now I'm
> here with the 4 LP
box, which comes with
> > a big booklet. And the first
> paragraph in it goes
like this:
> >
> > "After a punk rock concert in New York ...
> English
producer John Wood goes
> > backstage. There he is introduced to Tom
>
Verlaine... To Wood's surprise,
> > Verlaine knows all about him. 'I've
admired
> your records for a long time',
> > says the gaunt blond guitarist,
then names
> the performers he likes: the
> > McGarrigle Sisters, John Martyn,
the Fairport
> Convention. 'But you know', says
> > Verlaine, 'the very best
of all is Nick
> Drake.'"
> >
> > Perhaps this conversation did took place
once upon a time, and
> perhaps it was
> > just out of courtesy Verlaine said
what he said. But has he
> *ever* said
> > anything like this elsewhere? A
bunch of folk-rockers and
> singer-songwriters
> > as favourites? The
McGarrigle Sisters?! John Martyn? Even
> Nick Drake? I'd say
> > that there's
similarities between Verlaine's Fender
> playing and Richard
> > Thompson's,
but the song-writing style is quite
> different. Anyway -- a bit
> >
interesting to see some other possible influences
> mentioned than Coltrane
and
> > Ayler and the other the usual suspects.
> >
> > Leif
> J, Sweden
> >
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