Re: (TV) Television

[Russ <russvr@gmail.com>]

Days - is a fine song and one of my favorites by them ( and the one I
covered on the 2nd tribute record! ). I'm not so sure how influential a
song is. It certainly should be covered by more people besides myself. Down
with Tom vs,Richard factionalism! LoL!

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 5:01 AM, Phil Obbard <pobbard@gmail.com> wrote:

> I love "Days", but wouldn't REM (who cast a big net for influences - check
> o
> ut their possible first-ever set list at
>
> http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2010/04/05/rem-30th-anniversary-concert-st-
> marys-church-athens-georgia/) likely cite "See No Evil" as their favorite
> Te
> levision song? They covered it, after all (as did the dB's). In fact, off
> th
> e top of my head, I can't think of any covers of "Days" by anyone... (And
> to
>  my ears, it's "Glory", not "Days", that predicts the 80s indie sound of
> ear
> ly REM).
>
> Dennis, don't leave the list! It would be a bad way to start the new year.
> W
> orse, I'd miss you. :)
>
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> > On Dec 31, 2014, at 1:05 AM, Jay Pontrelli <jpontrelli44@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I hope nobody around here misunderstands my feelings about the band.
> >
> > Truth be told it's A story of squandered genius and verlaines insane ego
> >
> > Seriously ask yourself which song on the first two albums was the most
> inf
> luential song had the greatest impact?  Was it Tom's stones influenced
> songs
> ?
> >
> > No it was a modest song called days
> >
> > The blueprint of REM's first two if not three albums very influential to
> t
> he go-betweens and extremely influential across-the-board going to the 80s
> a
> nd forward for that type of music
> >
> > Richard is the member of the band who anticipated and influenced a good
> po
> rtion of the 80s--not Tom
> >
> > I do not think that I am giving away any confidences to say that I spoke
> t
> o Richard and he's told me that he strongly pushed for television to tour
> up
>  and down the East Coast in 78 and Tom pushed back
> >
> > The reason I have a problem with Verlane is because I've met many
> remains i
> n my life and they're not fun people to be around extremely controlling
> peop
> le always hurt those who are around them
> >
> > I understand why Billy and Fred and even rip are willing to bite their
> ton
> gue's because they probably don't have a lot of money and this is a way to
> m
> ake a little bit of money
> > but they are slaves to a crazy controlling person who hasn't really
> shared
>  much of his genius with us in 30 years
> >
> > The funny thing is that when you see these guys play --whether it was
> Lloy
> d back in the 90s or the early 2000's or rip now, you realize that most of
> t
> he solos were Richards
> >
> > In my opinion the tragedy of television is that Richard was such a
> fucking
>  mess back then that he could rally nobody behind him, and Tom is such a
> psy
> chological manipulative person that he's always had Billy and Fred on his
> si
> de
> >
> > I'm not saying that Richard hasn't been the author of his own
> destruction b
> ecause he has and I've seen him in person acting like a nut
> >
> > all I'm saying is that if Tom had not been such an ego maniac control
> frea
> k and had opened his mind television could've been huge
> >
> > And as talented as rip is, and he is,I've seen enough television shows
> and
>  watched enough YouTube videos to see that he does not bring out the best
> of
>  Verlaine like Richard did
> >
> > For me the best the original band has ever done since their first go
> aroun
> d was 1880 or so live
> >
> > That is the essence of television
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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