Re: (TV) Television

[Jay Pontrelli <jpontrelli44@gmail.com>]

dennis, please don't leave the list because of my words

i'd rather leave and let you stay

jesus, i spent an hour the other night reading through your website and
stories

sorry that you took it personally

i meant no ill will

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Dennis D <dend@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

> I unsubscribed but I still got all these emails so I will reply. Jay do
> you KNOW Tom Verlaine, have you ever met him? I know him
> 35 years and he has always been very cool with me and that is what I go
> by, how a person treats me, not an opinion I've formed from what I read o
r
> from a disgruntled band member.
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> Hey bro you have to face the facts Tom verlaine is a douche bag he's a
> dick he's not a nice guy
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>  On Dec 31, 2014, at 7:46 AM, "Dennis D" <dend@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> Days is their most influential song??????? Wow, well that’s says
 it all,
>> Richard WAS Television and Tom had nothing to do with them being a good
>> band, in your opinion.
>> If the one song Richard gets writing credit on is their most influential
>> to you makes it very clear how you feel about the band. Richard talked t
o
>> you, so of course his side of things must be correct.
>> I've never met anyone who thought Days was their most influential song
>> before.
>> I'm going to bow out of this thread because I like both Richard and Tom
>> and I'm not going to defend one and slag the other. In fact it may be ti
me
>> to leave the list.
>> The Richard camp is just too happy to slag Tom because Richard talked to
>> them once or twice. See ya.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Their current fans seem to think differently, at least as far as I can
>> tell doing so shows with them and seeing how the audience has reacted si
nce
>> Richard left.
>>
>>
>> I hope nobody around here misunderstands my feelings about the band.
>>
>> Truth be told it's A story of squandered genius and verlaines insane ego
>>
>> Seriously ask yourself which song on the first two albums was the most
>> influential song had the greatest impact?  Was it Tom's stones influence
d
>> songs?
>>
>> No it was a modest song called days
>>
>> The blueprint of REM's first two if not three albums very influential to
>> the go-betweens and extremely influential across-the-board going to the 
80s
>> and forward for that type of music
>>
>> Richard is the member of the band who anticipated and influenced a good
>> portion of the 80s--not Tom
>>
>> I do not think that I am giving away any confidences to say that I spoke
>> to Richard and he's told me that he strongly pushed for television to to
ur
>> up and down the East Coast in 78 and Tom pushed back
>>
>> The reason I have a problem with Verlane is because I've met many remain
s
>> in my life and they're not fun people to be around extremely controlling
>> people always hurt those who are around them
>>
>> I understand why Billy and Fred and even rip are willing to bite their
>> tongue's because they probably don't have a lot of money and this is a w
ay
>> to make a little bit of money
>> but they are slaves to a crazy controlling person who hasn't really
>> shared much of his genius with us in 30 years
>>
>> The funny thing is that when you see these guys play --whether it was
>> Lloyd back in the 90s or the early 2000's or rip now, you realize that m
ost
>> of the solos were Richards
>>
>> In my opinion the tragedy of television is that Richard was such a
>> fucking mess back then that he could rally nobody behind him, and Tom is
>> such a psychological manipulative person that he's always had Billy and
>> Fred on his side
>>
>> I'm not saying that Richard hasn't been the author of his own destructio
n
>> because he has and I've seen him in person acting like a nut
>>
>> all I'm saying is that if Tom had not been such an ego maniac control
>> freak and had opened his mind television could've been huge
>>
>> And as talented as rip is, and he is,I've seen enough television shows
>> and watched enough YouTube videos to see that he does not bring out the
>> best of Verlaine like Richard did
>>
>> For me the best the original band has ever done since their first go
>> around was 1880 or so live
>>
>> That is the essence of television
>>
>>
>>
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