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Re: (TV) Television
Thanks for checking out my writing, hope you like some of it. :) No ill will
toward you Jay, I was just tired after spending 2 days doing shows and then
going to see Patti Smith last night. I'm getting old.
dennis, please don't leave the list because of my words
i'd rather leave and let you stay
jesus, i spent an hour the other night reading through your website and
stories
sorry that you took it personally
i meant no ill will
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Dennis D <dend@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
I unsubscribed but I still got all these emails so I will reply. Jay do
you KNOW Tom Verlaine, have you ever met him? I know him
35 years and he has always been very cool with me and that is what I go
by, how a person treats me, not an opinion I've formed from what I read o
r
from a disgruntled band member.
Hey bro you have to face the facts Tom verlaine is a douche bag he's a
dick he's not a nice guy
On Dec 31, 2014, at 7:46 AM, "Dennis D" <dend@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
Days is their most influential song??????? Wow, well that’s says
it all,
Richard WAS Television and Tom had nothing to do with them being a good
band, in your opinion.
If the one song Richard gets writing credit on is their most influential
to you makes it very clear how you feel about the band. Richard talked t
o
you, so of course his side of things must be correct.
I've never met anyone who thought Days was their most influential song
before.
I'm going to bow out of this thread because I like both Richard and Tom
and I'm not going to defend one and slag the other. In fact it may be ti
me
to leave the list.
The Richard camp is just too happy to slag Tom because Richard talked to
them once or twice. See ya.
Their current fans seem to think differently, at least as far as I can
tell doing so shows with them and seeing how the audience has reacted si
nce
Richard left.
I hope nobody around here misunderstands my feelings about the band.
Truth be told it's A story of squandered genius and verlaines insane ego
Seriously ask yourself which song on the first two albums was the most
influential song had the greatest impact? Was it Tom's stones influence
d
songs?
No it was a modest song called days
The blueprint of REM's first two if not three albums very influential to
the go-betweens and extremely influential across-the-board going to the
80s
and forward for that type of music
Richard is the member of the band who anticipated and influenced a good
portion of the 80s--not Tom
I do not think that I am giving away any confidences to say that I spoke
to Richard and he's told me that he strongly pushed for television to to
ur
up and down the East Coast in 78 and Tom pushed back
The reason I have a problem with Verlane is because I've met many remain
s
in my life and they're not fun people to be around extremely controlling
people always hurt those who are around them
I understand why Billy and Fred and even rip are willing to bite their
tongue's because they probably don't have a lot of money and this is a w
ay
to make a little bit of money
but they are slaves to a crazy controlling person who hasn't really
shared much of his genius with us in 30 years
The funny thing is that when you see these guys play --whether it was
Lloyd back in the 90s or the early 2000's or rip now, you realize that m
ost
of the solos were Richards
In my opinion the tragedy of television is that Richard was such a
fucking mess back then that he could rally nobody behind him, and Tom is
such a psychological manipulative person that he's always had Billy and
Fred on his side
I'm not saying that Richard hasn't been the author of his own destructio
n
because he has and I've seen him in person acting like a nut
all I'm saying is that if Tom had not been such an ego maniac control
freak and had opened his mind television could've been huge
And as talented as rip is, and he is,I've seen enough television shows
and watched enough YouTube videos to see that he does not bring out the
best of Verlaine like Richard did
For me the best the original band has ever done since their first go
around was 1880 or so live
That is the essence of television
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