Don't leave the list on my account. I should have bit my tongue on that one. Hapy New Year to you and everyone on the list. i'm out take care everyone and happy new year On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Jay Pontrelli <jpontrelli44@gmail.com> wrote:
dennis, please don't leave the list because of my words i'd rather leave and let you stay jesus, i spent an hour the other night reading through your website and stories sorry that you took it personally i meant no ill will On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Dennis D <dend@nyc.rr.com> wrote:I unsubscribed but I still got all these emails so I will reply. Jay do you KNOW Tom Verlaine, have you ever met him? I know him 35 years and he has always been very cool with me and that is what I go by, how a person treats me, not an opinion I've formed from what I read
or
from a disgruntled band member. Hey bro you have to face the facts Tom verlaine is a douche bag he's a dick he's not a nice guy On Dec 31, 2014, at 7:46 AM, "Dennis D" <dend@nyc.rr.com> wrote:Days is their most influential song??????? Wow, well that’s say
s it all,
Richard WAS Television and Tom had nothing to do with them being a good band, in your opinion. If the one song Richard gets writing credit on is their most influentia
l
to you makes it very clear how you feel about the band. Richard talked
to
you, so of course his side of things must be correct. I've never met anyone who thought Days was their most influential song before. I'm going to bow out of this thread because I like both Richard and Tom and I'm not going to defend one and slag the other. In fact it may be t
ime
to leave the list. The Richard camp is just too happy to slag Tom because Richard talked t
o
them once or twice. See ya. Their current fans seem to think differently, at least as far as I can tell doing so shows with them and seeing how the audience has reacted s
ince
Richard left. I hope nobody around here misunderstands my feelings about the band. Truth be told it's A story of squandered genius and verlaines insane eg
o
Seriously ask yourself which song on the first two albums was the most influential song had the greatest impact? Was it Tom's stones influenc
ed
songs? No it was a modest song called days The blueprint of REM's first two if not three albums very influential t
o
the go-betweens and extremely influential across-the-board going to the
80s
and forward for that type of music Richard is the member of the band who anticipated and influenced a good portion of the 80s--not Tom I do not think that I am giving away any confidences to say that I spok
e
to Richard and he's told me that he strongly pushed for television to t
our
up and down the East Coast in 78 and Tom pushed back The reason I have a problem with Verlane is because I've met many remains in my life and they're not fun people to be around extremely controlling people always hurt those who are around them I understand why Billy and Fred and even rip are willing to bite their tongue's because they probably don't have a lot of money and this is a
way
to make a little bit of money but they are slaves to a crazy controlling person who hasn't really shared much of his genius with us in 30 years The funny thing is that when you see these guys play --whether it was Lloyd back in the 90s or the early 2000's or rip now, you realize that
most
of the solos were Richards In my opinion the tragedy of television is that Richard was such a fucking mess back then that he could rally nobody behind him, and Tom i
s
such a psychological manipulative person that he's always had Billy and Fred on his side I'm not saying that Richard hasn't been the author of his own destruction because he has and I've seen him in person acting like a nu
t
all I'm saying is that if Tom had not been such an ego maniac control freak and had opened his mind television could've been huge And as talented as rip is, and he is,I've seen enough television shows and watched enough YouTube videos to see that he does not bring out the best of Verlaine like Richard did For me the best the original band has ever done since their first go around was 1880 or so live That is the essence of television -------------- To post: Mail tv@obbard.com To unsubscribe: Mail majordomo@obbard.com with message "unsubscribe tv" -------------- To post: Mail tv@obbard.com To unsubscribe: Mail majordomo@obbard.com with message "unsubscribe tv"-------------- To post: Mail tv@obbard.com To unsubscribe: Mail majordomo@obbard.com with message "unsubscribe tv" -------------- To post: Mail tv@obbard.com To unsubscribe: Mail majordomo@obbard.com with message "unsubscribe tv"
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