Re: (TV) Television

[Jay Pontrelli <jpontrelli44@gmail.com>]

i'm out

take care everyone

and happy new year

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Jay Pontrelli <jpontrelli44@gmail.com>
wrote:

> dennis, please don't leave the list because of my words
>
> i'd rather leave and let you stay
>
> jesus, i spent an hour the other night reading through your website and
> stories
>
> sorry that you took it personally
>
> i meant no ill will
>
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Dennis D <dend@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> I unsubscribed but I still got all these emails so I will reply. Jay do
>> you KNOW Tom Verlaine, have you ever met him? I know him
>> 35 years and he has always been very cool with me and that is what I go
>> by, how a person treats me, not an opinion I've formed from what I read 
or
>> from a disgruntled band member.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey bro you have to face the facts Tom verlaine is a douche bag he's a
>> dick he's not a nice guy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Dec 31, 2014, at 7:46 AM, "Dennis D" <dend@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Days is their most influential song??????? Wow, well that’s say
s it all,
>>> Richard WAS Television and Tom had nothing to do with them being a good
>>> band, in your opinion.
>>> If the one song Richard gets writing credit on is their most influentia
l
>>> to you makes it very clear how you feel about the band. Richard talked 
to
>>> you, so of course his side of things must be correct.
>>> I've never met anyone who thought Days was their most influential song
>>> before.
>>> I'm going to bow out of this thread because I like both Richard and Tom
>>> and I'm not going to defend one and slag the other. In fact it may be t
ime
>>> to leave the list.
>>> The Richard camp is just too happy to slag Tom because Richard talked t
o
>>> them once or twice. See ya.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Their current fans seem to think differently, at least as far as I can
>>> tell doing so shows with them and seeing how the audience has reacted s
ince
>>> Richard left.
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope nobody around here misunderstands my feelings about the band.
>>>
>>> Truth be told it's A story of squandered genius and verlaines insane eg
o
>>>
>>> Seriously ask yourself which song on the first two albums was the most
>>> influential song had the greatest impact?  Was it Tom's stones influenc
ed
>>> songs?
>>>
>>> No it was a modest song called days
>>>
>>> The blueprint of REM's first two if not three albums very influential t
o
>>> the go-betweens and extremely influential across-the-board going to the
 80s
>>> and forward for that type of music
>>>
>>> Richard is the member of the band who anticipated and influenced a good
>>> portion of the 80s--not Tom
>>>
>>> I do not think that I am giving away any confidences to say that I spok
e
>>> to Richard and he's told me that he strongly pushed for television to t
our
>>> up and down the East Coast in 78 and Tom pushed back
>>>
>>> The reason I have a problem with Verlane is because I've met many
>>> remains in my life and they're not fun people to be around extremely
>>> controlling people always hurt those who are around them
>>>
>>> I understand why Billy and Fred and even rip are willing to bite their
>>> tongue's because they probably don't have a lot of money and this is a 
way
>>> to make a little bit of money
>>> but they are slaves to a crazy controlling person who hasn't really
>>> shared much of his genius with us in 30 years
>>>
>>> The funny thing is that when you see these guys play --whether it was
>>> Lloyd back in the 90s or the early 2000's or rip now, you realize that 
most
>>> of the solos were Richards
>>>
>>> In my opinion the tragedy of television is that Richard was such a
>>> fucking mess back then that he could rally nobody behind him, and Tom i
s
>>> such a psychological manipulative person that he's always had Billy and
>>> Fred on his side
>>>
>>> I'm not saying that Richard hasn't been the author of his own
>>> destruction because he has and I've seen him in person acting like a nu
t
>>>
>>> all I'm saying is that if Tom had not been such an ego maniac control
>>> freak and had opened his mind television could've been huge
>>>
>>> And as talented as rip is, and he is,I've seen enough television shows
>>> and watched enough YouTube videos to see that he does not bring out the
>>> best of Verlaine like Richard did
>>>
>>> For me the best the original band has ever done since their first go
>>> around was 1880 or so live
>>>
>>> That is the essence of television
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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