Re: (TV) 'The Funniest Thing ' by Tom Verlaine/Who's responsible For Cheap Synths on 'Scientist'?

[Rex Broome <rexbroome@gmail.com>]

The production on "Flash Light" is sort of invisible to me as I heard it
when it first came out, and compared to most of what was out there at the
time, well, it had lots of great sounding guitars on it and most other
records of the time... didn't.  The drums, while unpleasingly processed in
retrospect, had at least some degree of live feel and felt like proper
parts of the arrangement.  And all of the songs are great.

In comparison, "The Wonder" sounded thin, anemic and unfinished the first
time I heard it.  *Those* drums sound like simplistic scratch tracks on
demos that were never fleshed out.  Besides which the songs aren't at the
same standard.

As far as Tom aping Cole... I doubt it.  It feels more like he just didn't
want to yell any more.

Just me, though.



On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Leo Casey <LeoCasey@comcast.net> wrote:

> ?RE: > Depressing in what respect though, Leo?
>
> Well as much of a misanthrope TV can be at times, I gotta agree with his
> hatred of the mixing of his 1986 and 1990 solo albums.
>
> E.g., T,V.: "[Fontana] just had crazy ideas about commerciality, which is
> basically just mixing and mixing and mixing, and this is the horror of the
> whole modern record business - getting the guy [Paul O'Duffy] who mixed the
> latest hits from blah-blah to mix your record and thus ensure it will be
> played on the radio when the mix will have nothing to do with what you
> actually want or are doing."
>
> Million dollar question: On the song 'The Scientist Writes A Letter', was
> it
> T.V. who was responsible for the '[t]he tidal washes of cheap-sounding
> synthesizer'? Or was it O'Duffy and/or Fontana?
>
> Given T.V. was/is predisposed with perfectionism (and total control) of the
> music he created. I think it was inevitable he'd hate how they mixed his
> 1986 and 1990 albums.
>
> As a Commentor to the original Blog link (see belowe) wrote: "I suppose the
> most open-minded way to approach the mixing/remixing issue is just to
> accept
> that, however ill-matched the pairing of Verlaine and O'Duffy seems,
> Fontana
> were just trying to give his sound a contemporary gloss with a view to
> building his audience. And Verlaine was always going to hate that, as
> someone with more interest than many artists in the micro-details of how
> his
> records sounded.".
>
> https://longandwindingtoad.wordpress.com/2014/05/21/96-the-funniest-thing-by
> -tom-verlaine/
>
> Leo
>
> PS: Regarding bad mixes: I recently obtained "Golden Years: David Bowie
> Versus KCRW" [2011], which has the original mix of the Single-version plus
> four different mixes by DJs at radio sta KCRW. All 4 are probably four of
> the worst pieces of music I have ever heard in my life (and the original is
> a great! song.)
>
> PPS: I hate the production on the album "The Wonder", but love the website
> :>)
>
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> Allison
> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 9:26 AM
> To: tv@obbard.com
> Subject: Re: (TV) 'The Funniest Thing ' by Tom Verlaine
>
> On 03/07/2016 03:19, Leo Casey wrote:
> > I found this very interesting, albeit depressing:
>
> Indeed. Depressing in what respect though, Leo? It's certainly
> depressing to think that Tom V would copy Lloyd Cole's singing
> style.(Might as well criticise Cole for looking a bit like Elvis; he
> does, but I doubt that he set out to do so).
>
> I've always thought that Verlaine's story about Cole coming up to him
> and him saying he hadn't the faintest idea who 'Lloyd Cole' was to be
> just another one of his convenient attacks of disingenuity.
>
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