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Re: (TV) "Blue Mask" / VU box demo disc

I don't hate that first disc, its just not really representative of the VU
that were so fundamental to me. I don't think I've played it more than the
one time when I first got the box set, but all these comments make me want
to put it on when i get home.


On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Philip P. Obbard wrote:

> I don't know why everyone hates the first disc of the VU box so much. Sure, I
> only play it about once a year or so, but it's a fascinating high-quality
> glimpse at a bunch of pretty famous stuff when it wasn't quite together. I
> think the real problem most people have is the unedited nature of the disc -
> all those takes can definitely make your interest fade. But otherwise, it's
> about as amazing and revealing for the VU as the March 1975 Island demos are
> for Television fanatics - more so, actually, like finding a tape of Tom
> Verlaine and Richard Hell writing songs together c. 1974. 
> The demo disc also underscores, for me, what a fantastic, otherworldly voice
> John Cale has; he sounds terrific on stuff like "Waiting for the Man" and
> "Venus in Furs". He was clearly under-used vocally on the first two VU albums.
> And those early arrangements are so radically different - a world away from the
> first VU album - that they give you a whole new perspective on where Reed and
> Cale were originally coming from (despite what they say now - open-bar tuning
> and John Cage, et al).
> All I can say is: if they hadn't included this tape, everyone would complaining
> that it should have been released!
> As for me, I tend to lean on discs 4 and 5 of the VU box - the "closet" mix of
> the 3rd LP plus the VU-era stuff ("Foggy Notion", etc.), and "restored" version
> of LOADED with the LOADED-era outtakes. I like the first two albums, but I love
> the second two, and the versions on the box made me love 'em even more. Oops,
> there goes *my* street cred, too.
> --Philip
> --- Joe Hartley <jh@brainiac.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I must admit I jumped while reading about folks dumping their VU
> > boxed sets - it's essential in my collection.  That said, I almost
> > always listen to the VU&Nico and Loaded disks, with occasional
> > spins of the other 2 albums.  The fifth demo disk has been played
> > once, just to say I listened to it.
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