Re: Subject: RE: (TV) OT Eno and Semi - On Topic CJ & F

["Philip P. Obbard" <pobbard@yahoo.com>]

Really? I think you're underestimating the pervasive quality of sixties pop in
the music you like. You might not listen to the Beatles regularly - I don't any
longer - but you can bet the groups you named (Dylan aside) got crucial
inspiration from them or from the bands they spawned. 

Isn't this a Television list? I'd argue that Television was more influence by
sixties pop records taken to their logical conclusion than by the VU. This
belief is reinforced not only by their choice of covers but also by Verlaine's
comment in FROM THE VELVETS TO THE VOIDOIDS about buying a box full of 60s
singles, listening to Byrds and Kinks singles, and realizing that the rhythm
guitar parts generate the excitement in the music. (Sterling Morrison is quoted
making a similar statement in the book, too). The VU tend to be remembered for
their 'ground-breaking' music, while forgetting their overwhelming number of
fantastic, pure pop songs. Just because it isn't produced/recorded well doesn't
mean it isn't a pop record. 

"Days" is derived by playing the Byrds' arrangement of "Mr. Tambourine Man"
backwards... and songs like "Glory" and "Careful" probably owe more sonically
to the Dave Clark Five than "White Light / White Heat". "Marquee Moon" started
life as an acoustic hippie anthem.

I'm not saying for an instant that the influence of the VU/Dylan/Stones wasn't
vital to loads of bands that followed, Television included, only that it's
extraordinarily difficult to remove the influence of the Beatles from those
three groups/performers to begin with.

--Philip

--- eric gregory <crackcity_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
> i'm the same way...in my musical universe, the beatles
> are a minor voice...VU/dylan/stones are the kingpins.


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