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Re: (TV) OT: "Student Must Pay $675k For Songs"

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Subject: Re: (TV) OT: "Student Must Pay $675k For Songs"
From: Iñigo <gobeco@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:51:42 +0200
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Ummm....lawyers are tools for the industry and they do their job. I think
the big problem is in the record companies and , they dont want to recognize
that the big bussiness was gone, glory days have passed away.Sales profit
margin now are tiny and they want to continue driving their Rolls Royce. A
little risk with new bands, they use a lot of archive recordings of old
glories. We all know that records now are a card presentation for gigs.

2009/8/4 Russ <russvr@gmail.com>

> The only people who will come out ahead over this are lawyers. I'm sorry if
> anyone on this list is an attorney, I mean no offense to you, but in the
> case we are discussing *they* are the mafia.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Iqigo <gobeco@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > SGAE (like ASCAP) its a very important lobby for the intelectual rights
> of
> > artist crowd but the way they work is more like a mafia, there is no
> > justice, benefit sharing is not fair, really is the great business of a
> > few.
> > They pulled Goverment to Canon digital law and even we pay the tax IT IS
> > STILL A CRIME.
> >
> > SGAE in english :
> http://www.sgae.es/tipology/est/item/en/530_616.htmlLOOKS
> > WONDERFUL PEOPLE WORKING FOR A GOOD IDEAL. ITS NOT TRUE, ALL IS IMAGE,
> ALL
> > IS FALSE.ITS A MAFIA.
> >
> > 2009/8/4 andy fekete <andy.fekete@gmail.com>
> >
> > > "Obviously now I feel free in my conscience to download everything wat
> I
> > > want, I have already paid for it in the hardware."
> > >
> > > I can imagine this is how anyone would feel under such a system.
> > >
> > > Now that all media storage is taxed in Spain, is it still a crime in
> > Spain
> > > to download an mp3 without paying for it?
> > >
> > > -A
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Iqigo <gobeco@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Its a lost war for the industry, maybe they will win in some
> but......
> > > it4s
> > > > imposible to put gates to the heaven!!!They must put more creativity
> to
> > > > sell.
> > > >
> > > > Here in Spain we are in worst position. We have the (Canon digital(,
> > Its
> > > a
> > > > special tax to the all digital support (cd,dvd,usb memory,hard
> > disk,etc)
> > > > and
> > > > all kind of reproduction machine(computers,dvd,mp3 players,hi-fi
> > > > recorders,etc) to the customer buying. Zapatero4s spanish goverment
> > treat
> > > > us
> > > > like thieves without beeing able to demostrate it. It makes me
> feeling
> > > like
> > > > living in a comunist country, defenseless. Obviously now I feel free
> in
> > > my
> > > > conscience to download everything wat I want, I have already paid for
> > it
> > > in
> > > > the hardware.
> > > >
> > > > In France goverment are studyng now a law to disconect internet
> > conexion
> > > to
> > > > homes that it will be probe that they have downloaded copyright
> > content.
> > > >
> > > > 2009/8/1 BlackMonk <BlackMonk@email.msn.com>
> > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leo Casey" <
> LeoCasey@comcast.net
> > >
> > > > > To: <tv@obbard.com>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 1:23 PM
> > > > > Subject: (TV) OT: "Student Must Pay $675k For Songs"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  "Student Must Pay $675k For Songs", Aug. 1, 2009 , Boston Globe
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> <
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/08/01/bu_student
> > > >
> > > _fined_675000_for<
> > > http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/200
> > > 9/08/01/bu_student%0A_fined_675000_for>
> > > > >> _illegal_music_downloads/>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/08/01/bu_student
> > > >
> > > _fined_675000_for_<
> > > http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/20
> > > 09/08/01/bu_student%0A_fined_675000_for_>
> > > > >> illegal_music_downloads/
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Should I/we be worried?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This is what the music industry will use as a threat to get
> > thousands
> > > if
> > > > >> not millions of
> > > > >> downloaders to settle out of court.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > > "But Timothy M. Reynolds, one of the lawyers for the record labels,
> > > > > countered that "the defendant is a hard-core, habitual, long-term
> > > > infringer
> > > > > who knew what he was doing was wrong but did it anyway.''
> > > > > Reynolds was among a team of lawyers for Sony BMG Music
> > Entertainment,
> > > > > Warner Bros. Records Inc., Arista Records LLC, and UMG Recordings
> > Inc.
> > > "
> > > > >
> > > > > Why isn't there an organized boycott of  Sony BMG Music
> > Entertainment,
> > > > > Warner Bros. Records Inc., Arista Records LLC, and UMG Recordings
> > Inc?
> > > If
> > > > > this offends people so much, then they should avoid anything on the
> > > > label.
> > > > > Don't buy it. Don't  download it for free, since that would only
> > > support
> > > > > their case.
> > > > >
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