Re: (TV) Not so familiar Verlaine favourites

[Rex Broome <rexbroome@gmail.com>]

Folks tend to think of Mazzy Star as a sort of singular thing, but they're
really heavily linked to the Paisley Underground bands, which owed a lot to
Television... Rain Parade, which has a direct link to Mazzy, did a nice c
over of "Ain't That Nothin'".  Well worth following those roots!


On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Glenn Cooper <glennwaynecooper@gmail.com>wrote:

> Bob, I dare say it's the same interview re being asked about Sailor's Life
> and his other comments re Thompson's Fender -- if only I could
> remember WHICH interview it was!!
>
> Funny that you should mention Mazzy Star -- I just got into her lately,
> after hearing "Into Dust" on an episode of Californication. Some really
> good melancholy stuff. I don't recall Tom ever saying he was into Mazzy,
> though. Of course, he may well have, but it's news to me. :)
>
> Glenn C.
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Bob Beatty <bobjb2002@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> > I'll corroborate what Amilcar says re. Richard Thompson, as I
> > recall the
> > interview where Tom commented on Richard Thompson, saying he
> > liked his Fender
> > sound but didn't like Thompson's playing style. I tried
> >  to locate the article
> > today to cite it, but couldn't find it easily. Of
> >  course,  there's lots more
> > going on with Fairport Convention than just
> > Thompson's guitar that Tom could
> > like.
> >
> > I'd not heard  the excellent "A Sailor's Life" before. Thanks to Glen
> > for the YT link. I might not have noticed similarities to M.M. without
> them
> > being pointed out.
> > I hear echoes of the song Marquee Moon in a number of Sonic
> > Youth songs, "Rain on Tin" being just one. And Thurston has described
> > Television as being "elemental" to SY's sound, by which I guess he means
> > there's an element of Television influence.
> >
> > Tom supposedly named Mazzy Star
> > as a band he likes. Knowing I'm a Mazzy Star fan, Deb once pointed out a
> > post
> > to me from the MM List archives from some years back she noticed where
> > someone
> > had posted that Tom "likes Joy Division & Mazzy Star." I'd read  an
> > interview
> > where Tom said He likes "Joy Division's stuff with that singer, before he
> > took
> > the cure". So I knew that was accurate, but the Mazzy Star reference was
> > new.
> > Does anyone else here recall Tom citing Mazzy Star as fave band, I
> wonder?
> > If
> > it's true, I'll guess Tom might like the band for similar reasons he said
> > he
> > likes The Pretenders, i.e.'cause Chrissie Hynde's "a good singer" &
> > "there's a
> > melodic gift there".  Maybe Tom thinks, as I do, Mazzy's singer, Hope
> > Sandoval, has a rare talent for writing & delivering emotive melodies.
> > Perhaps
> > Tom's a McGarrigle Sisters fan for similar reasons.
> > -Bob
> > ________________________________
> >  From: amilcar amarante
> > <amilcaramarante2002@yahoo.com.ar>
> > To: "tv@obbard.com" <tv@obbard.com>
> > Sent:
> > Sunday, April 21, 2013 4:20:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: (TV) Not so familiar Verlaine
> >  favourites
> >
> >
> > he even said once that he didn4t like Thompson4s playing ,only
> > his "Fender "
> > sound ...
> > i remenber because i like Thompson a lot...
> >
> >
> >
> > AMILCAR
> > AMARANTE
> > http://temper.bandcamp.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > De:
> > Glenn
> > Cooper <glennwaynecooper@gmail.com>
> > Para: tv@obbard.com
> > Enviado:
> > domingo, 21
> > de abril de 2013 18:29
> > Asunto: Re: (TV) Not so familiar Verlaine
> > favourites
> > Well, of course there are similarities between Fairport's "A
> > Sailor's Life"
> > and "Marquee Moon". Tom was once asked if the former had been
> > an influence
> > on
> > the construction of that song and he replied, No, that he
> > hadn't heard
> > that
> > song at the time of MM's composition.
> >
> > A Sailor's Life
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szrGtFxtWXU
> >
> > It is a masterpiece.
> >
> > Glenn C.
> > On
> > 22/04/2013 6:40 AM, leif joley wrote:
> > > I was "late at the ball", as we say
> > in
> > Swedish, and didn't buy me any Nick
> > > Drake records until today. So now I'm
> > here with the 4 LP box, which comes with
> > > a big booklet. And the first
> > paragraph in it goes like this:
> > >
> > > "After a punk rock concert in New York ...
> > English producer John Wood goes
> > > backstage. There he is introduced to Tom
> > Verlaine... To Wood's surprise,
> > > Verlaine knows all about him. 'I've admired
> > your records for a long time',
> > > says the gaunt blond guitarist, then names
> > the performers he likes: the
> > > McGarrigle Sisters, John Martyn, the Fairport
> > Convention. 'But you know', says
> > > Verlaine, 'the very best of all is Nick
> > Drake.'"
> > >
> > > Perhaps this conversation did took place once upon a time, and
> > perhaps it was
> > > just out of courtesy Verlaine said what he said. But has he
> > *ever* said
> > > anything like this elsewhere? A bunch of folk-rockers and
> > singer-songwriters
> > > as favourites? The McGarrigle Sisters?! John Martyn? Even
> > Nick Drake? I'd say
> > > that there's similarities between Verlaine's Fender
> > playing and Richard
> > > Thompson's, but the song-writing style is quite
> > different. Anyway -- a bit
> > > interesting to see some other possible influences
> > mentioned than Coltrane and
> > > Ayler and the other the usual suspects.
> > >
> > > Leif
> > J, Sweden
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