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RE: (TV) Not so familiar Verlaine favourites



Mazzy is part of Paisley.  By heavily linked, you mean same band members as
Rain Parade, Opal, etc.  that was probably the most incestuous music scene
of the past 30 years.

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From: tv-owner@obbard.com [mailto:tv-owner@obbard.com] On Behalf Of Rex
Broome
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:08 PM
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Subject: Re: (TV) Not so familiar Verlaine favourites

Folks tend to think of Mazzy Star as a sort of singular thing, but they're
really heavily linked to the Paisley Underground bands, which owed a lot to
Television... Rain Parade, which has a direct link to Mazzy, did a nice c
over of "Ain't That Nothin'".  Well worth following those roots!


On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Glenn Cooper
<glennwaynecooper@gmail.com>wrote:

> Bob, I dare say it's the same interview re being asked about Sailor's 
> Life and his other comments re Thompson's Fender -- if only I could 
> remember WHICH interview it was!!
>
> Funny that you should mention Mazzy Star -- I just got into her 
> lately, after hearing "Into Dust" on an episode of Californication. 
> Some really good melancholy stuff. I don't recall Tom ever saying he 
> was into Mazzy, though. Of course, he may well have, but it's news to 
> me. :)
>
> Glenn C.
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Bob Beatty <bobjb2002@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> > I'll corroborate what Amilcar says re. Richard Thompson, as I recall 
> > the interview where Tom commented on Richard Thompson, saying he 
> > liked his Fender sound but didn't like Thompson's playing style. I 
> > tried  to locate the article today to cite it, but couldn't find it 
> > easily. Of  course,  there's lots more going on with Fairport 
> > Convention than just Thompson's guitar that Tom could like.
> >
> > I'd not heard  the excellent "A Sailor's Life" before. Thanks to 
> > Glen for the YT link. I might not have noticed similarities to M.M. 
> > without
> them
> > being pointed out.
> > I hear echoes of the song Marquee Moon in a number of Sonic Youth 
> > songs, "Rain on Tin" being just one. And Thurston has described 
> > Television as being "elemental" to SY's sound, by which I guess he 
> > means there's an element of Television influence.
> >
> > Tom supposedly named Mazzy Star
> > as a band he likes. Knowing I'm a Mazzy Star fan, Deb once pointed 
> > out a post to me from the MM List archives from some years back she 
> > noticed where someone had posted that Tom "likes Joy Division & 
> > Mazzy Star." I'd read  an interview where Tom said He likes "Joy 
> > Division's stuff with that singer, before he took the cure". So I 
> > knew that was accurate, but the Mazzy Star reference was new.
> > Does anyone else here recall Tom citing Mazzy Star as fave band, I
> wonder?
> > If
> > it's true, I'll guess Tom might like the band for similar reasons he 
> > said he likes The Pretenders, i.e.'cause Chrissie Hynde's "a good 
> > singer" & "there's a melodic gift there".  Maybe Tom thinks, as I 
> > do, Mazzy's singer, Hope Sandoval, has a rare talent for writing & 
> > delivering emotive melodies.
> > Perhaps
> > Tom's a McGarrigle Sisters fan for similar reasons.
> > -Bob
> > ________________________________
> >  From: amilcar amarante
> > <amilcaramarante2002@yahoo.com.ar>
> > To: "tv@obbard.com" <tv@obbard.com>
> > Sent:
> > Sunday, April 21, 2013 4:20:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: (TV) Not so familiar Verlaine  favourites
> >
> >
> > he even said once that he didn4t like Thompson4s playing ,only
> > his "Fender "
> > sound ...
> > i remenber because i like Thompson a lot...
> >
> >
> >
> > AMILCAR
> > AMARANTE
> > http://temper.bandcamp.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > De:
> > Glenn
> > Cooper <glennwaynecooper@gmail.com>
> > Para: tv@obbard.com
> > Enviado:
> > domingo, 21
> > de abril de 2013 18:29
> > Asunto: Re: (TV) Not so familiar Verlaine
> > favourites
> > Well, of course there are similarities between Fairport's "A
> > Sailor's Life"
> > and "Marquee Moon". Tom was once asked if the former had been
> > an influence
> > on
> > the construction of that song and he replied, No, that he
> > hadn't heard
> > that
> > song at the time of MM's composition.
> >
> > A Sailor's Life
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szrGtFxtWXU
> >
> > It is a masterpiece.
> >
> > Glenn C.
> > On
> > 22/04/2013 6:40 AM, leif joley wrote:
> > > I was "late at the ball", as we say
> > in
> > Swedish, and didn't buy me any Nick
> > > Drake records until today. So now I'm
> > here with the 4 LP box, which comes with
> > > a big booklet. And the first
> > paragraph in it goes like this:
> > >
> > > "After a punk rock concert in New York ...
> > English producer John Wood goes
> > > backstage. There he is introduced to Tom
> > Verlaine... To Wood's surprise,
> > > Verlaine knows all about him. 'I've admired
> > your records for a long time',
> > > says the gaunt blond guitarist, then names
> > the performers he likes: the
> > > McGarrigle Sisters, John Martyn, the Fairport
> > Convention. 'But you know', says
> > > Verlaine, 'the very best of all is Nick
> > Drake.'"
> > >
> > > Perhaps this conversation did took place once upon a time, and
> > perhaps it was
> > > just out of courtesy Verlaine said what he said. But has he
> > *ever* said
> > > anything like this elsewhere? A bunch of folk-rockers and
> > singer-songwriters
> > > as favourites? The McGarrigle Sisters?! John Martyn? Even
> > Nick Drake? I'd say
> > > that there's similarities between Verlaine's Fender
> > playing and Richard
> > > Thompson's, but the song-writing style is quite
> > different. Anyway -- a bit
> > > interesting to see some other possible influences
> > mentioned than Coltrane and
> > > Ayler and the other the usual suspects.
> > >
> > > Leif
> > J, Sweden
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