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Re: (TV) Monk/Trane's influence on Verlaine's playing
CORRECTION: Sorry, the word was LINEAR not liear.
> I'm with Eric on this one. McGuinn has that real linear style
>much like Tom's. I doubt that Tom would argue the Byrds influence.
>Hell, Lloyd has said that the "Days" riff is "Mr. Tambourine Man"
>played backwards which he figured out once while doing acid. Sounds
>as though it could be true. Damn if I'm gonna sit around and try and
>figure out if he's tellin' the truth though. I'll just take his word
>for it.
>
> See y'all, M T C
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>>From: Eric Gregory <egregory@standard.com>
>>To: "'tv@obbard.com'" <tv@obbard.com>
>>Subject: RE: (TV) Monk/Trane's influence on Verlaine's playing
>>Date: Thu, Dec 30, 1999, 6:50 PM
>>
>
>>just to add my small 2 cents (not really a jazzer), i hear a hell of a lot
>>of jim/roger mcguinn in verlaine as well.
>>& mcguinn was supposedly shooting for coltrane at the height of the byrds'
>>"psychedelic" phase.
>>
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: SCOTT ALDRICH [mailto:scott.aldrich@worldnet.att.net]
>>Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 3:34 PM
>>To: tv@obbard.com
>>Subject: (TV) Monk/Trane's influence on Verlaine's playing
>>
>>
>>Maurice, I've been playing "Ba-lues Bolivar Ba-lues Are" for years, also
>>play a version of "Panonica", beautiful song where Thelonious plays the
>>melody on an out of tune celeste, a kid's piano! "Brilliant Corners" I can't
>>remember if I play or not. You made me want to put on that record. Everyone
>>on this list should get a copy of that record of vital, timeless music. One
>>of Monk's greatest.I think Monk is maybe the coolest, most adventurous tune
>>writer, ever. I don't really hear Monk or Coltrane in Verlaine's playing,
>>maybe a little Coltrane, as you say, in Tom's phrasing in live performances.
>>I'm thinking of some live version of "Marquee Moon", I think, where his
>>phrasing reminded me some of Coltrane's in the "Afro-Blue Impressions" vein.
>>I think Tom is very fluid, like Coltrane, I just don't hear the harmonic
>>connection. I think Tom does have the exciting, adventurous spirit that Monk
>>and Trane have. Granted, I think Verlaine is maybe the only known rock
>>guitarist whose playing reveals influences from Love, the Velvets, the
>>Stones, and Coltrane. Add Bob Quine as well. That's one of the reasons I
>>love those guys' playing so much, it really is a synthesis of all of this
>>challenging, rocking and soulful music of varying stripes. I'll have to
>>check out more Roy Buchanan, I never heard that connection before. I really
>>hear a predecesor in Mike Bloomfield's playing. Listen to the Live at
>>Newport version of Maggie's Farm, if you can get a copy. East-West,
>>obviously, but some of his stuff with Dylan is very far-out. The Newport
>>performance is ferocious. It must have blown their harrumphing hipster
>>"aesthete" with cash to fart, folky minds.
>>Scott
>>
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>>>From: Maurice Rickard <maurice@envirolink.org>
>>>To: tv@obbard.com
>>>Subject: (TV) email
>>>Date: Wed, Dec 29, 1999, 11:17 PM
>>>
>>
>>> Once again, my account was hosed for the better part of two days (Emilie
>>> is welcome to laugh at this one), so my apologies if anyone trying to
>>> email me received bounces.
>>>
>>> If it happens again, feel free to contact me at the other address,
>>> maurice@greenmarketplace.com.
>>>
>>> To keep this from being nearly completely pointless, I'll pick up Owen's
>>> question from last week (at least I think it was Owen's), and say that I
>>> hear more Trane than Monk in Tom's playing. I've always heard Monk as
>>> playing those weird intervals (lots of minor seconds, for example), which
>>> someone once described as being the wrong note at the right time. And
>>> Trane had that modal thing in his '60s playing, much as Tom does a lot of
>>> those modal solos. Of course, nowadays I'm hearing more Roy Buchanan in
>>> Tom's playing.
>>>
>>> Anyone ever see the film _Straight, No Chaser_? Fascinating
>>> performance/documentary footage of Monk.
>>>
>>> Maurice, who's been trying for years to work out "Brilliant Corners" on
>>> guitar....
>>>
>>> Maurice Rickard | "Multimedia will never go anywhere
>>> Designer | until the amateurs take over."
>>> http://www.envirolink.org/maurice | --David Thomas
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