Re: (TV) Re: Personal attacks-enough is enough please...

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Please no preaching!!

ray wrote:

> I should have known from past experience that you wouldn't give this
> Wayne/Fred topic up so easily Michael... y'know i find it increasingly
> harder to read these
> very personal attacks you continue to make on artists being discussed on the
> list-especially when they have no right of reply.
> You seem a bit tetchy at the best of times but i'm starting to worry that
> you're gonna blow a gasket one of these days...i don't usually advocate drug
> taking as a rule but maybe you need a wee valium or a big doobie to chill
> you out.You remind me a lot  at times of a politician from Northern
> Ireland-Ian Paisley-ever heard of him?
>
> At the end of the day i don't really care what has gone on between the
> Smith family and Kramer-that's their business not mine-maybe you're indeed
> right and W.K. isn't a very nice human being
> at all but at the end of the day we're discussing the MUSIC on this
> list....it's also supposed to be FUN-remember?.. obviously you feel very
> strongly about this whole matter-why don't you take it off-list? - then you
> can vent your spleen as often or as
> much as you want to those who are actually interested.
>
> Respectfully....R.
>
> MC wrote:>     I don't know how closely any of you pay attention to what
> "Brother"
> > Wayne
> > Kramer has been saying about Fred "Sonic" Smith but let me tell you,
> Kramer
> > is
> > one low Mutha F@#*er. He dwells on Fred's addictions, and domestic
> hearsay.
> > Wayne
> > had not seen Fred in almost 20 years and when he did Fred had liver
> cancer.
> > Wayne
> > saw that as a man deteriorating from his alcoholism. Not true. Since the
> MC5
> > split
> > up Fred managed to raise two wonderful children, maintain a
> > succesful(non-abusive)
> > marriage, obtain a aeronautic pilot's license, had the Sonic's Rendezous
> > band,
> > did Dream Of Life, and managed to stay out of prison. Wayne had no clue as
> > to these
> > achievements. All he can talk about these days is how Fred mentally &
> > physically
> > abused Patti(again, not true), lost his mind, wasn't the same(who is after
> > 15 years),
> > basically called him a loser. You  can read these quotes from "Brother"
> > Wayne Kramer
> > in his last 4 or 5 interviews. The guy's a jealous cocks@#*er. And when
> > confronted
> > all he could say n his defense was "hey, I called it as I saw it".
> Nevermind
> > that
> > he's trying to tear down Fred's good name and rep, but what about the
> > feelings of
> > Fred's family who are still here and have to live with Wayne's
> speculations.
> > Wayne
> > actually had the balls to say that at Fred's wake Jackson(Fred's son) nor
> > Patti
> > could shed a tear for Fred, and that his 5 year old daughter was at the
> > funeral parlor
> > playing in a corner. How ridiculous is that. Does Brother Wayne Kramer
> know
> > how the family may have mourned at home? Surely not. My point behind all
> of
> > this, if Wayne
> > professes to be Fred's "Brother" why wouldn't he put emphasis on all of
> > Fred's major
> > accomplishments like the other surviving members of the MC5 do? I'm sorry
> > but I cannot
> > refrain from dissing someone like this, nor can I hold any amount of
> respect
> > for
> > such loathesome vermin. I still suggest that if you want to hear the more
> > prolific,
> > seasoned guitarist, pick up the current Sonics Rendezvous Band CD "City
> > Slang". If
> > the playing and songwriting on that disc do not get your adrenalin going,
> > then you
> > may want to check your pulse. After that you can buy "Sweet Nothing" CD.
> In
> > the
> > 3-1/2 years that SRB were together Fred must have written over 50 songs,
> > played well
> > over 325 shows and all on the strength of 1 one-sided single. Quite
> possibly
> > the
> > best independent R & R single of all time "City Slang". Thanks for letting
> > me vent.
> > M T C
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