Re: (TV) Ray / Marc /Ziggy

["Nick" <nick@powelln.freeserve.co.uk>]

Very disappointed to hear this. I have not heard that song and, by the sound
of it, I don't want to. However I must say that if we refused to listen to
bands/artists that have ever been derogatory to women in some way, there
would not be much to listen to. Times change and, hopefully peoples
attitudes towards racism and sexism have changed for the better. I tend to
find that sort of material much  more offensive in say, music from the 90s
than say,  music from the 60s  or 70s. That might not be right but that's
how I feel. So I don't know the Ray Davies lyrics from that song but, if
they are sexist and racist, I would hope that he is now ashamed of them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Strell" <jeff.strell@usa.net>
To: <tv@obbard.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 2:41 AM
Subject: Re: (TV) Ray / Marc /Ziggy


> OK, Monica.  I'll grant you "Get Back In Line."  I forgot all about "Get
Back
> In Line."
>
> Plus, I was, as my beloved Mott the Hoople so aptly put it, "Born Late
'58,"
> and, so, much more susceptible to Beatlemania than a child of the (late)
> sixties might be.  For me, they're on some exalted level above critical
> analysis.  Let me put it this way -- a recent screening of the
newly-remixed,
> surround-sound Yellow Submarine movie moved me almost to tears.  (I
actually
> remember being disappointed I was too young to see them at Shea, and I
> remember watching them on Ed Sullivan.)
>
> Plus, let's say I'm of the ethnic persuasion to be not particularly amused
by
> Ray's little ditty "When I Turn Off the Living Room Light" on "Great
Lost..."
> Leading me to believe that our Mister Davies, though gifted, is not one of
the
> world's great thinkers.  (Unless his intent here was to offend all women
and
> Jews in his audience.  I could hardly imagine John Lennon being involved
in a
> similar gaffe.)
>
> So on balance, if it isn't painfully obvious already, let me say that I
> (sometimes) LOVE the Kinks.  (Even if I can't reconstruct the exact order
of
> their 60s output on a moment's notice.)  But better than the Beatles?
Geez.
>
> - Jeff
>
>
>
>
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