Re: (TV) Double Exposure vs. ...

[SCOTT ALDRICH <scott.aldrich@worldnet.att.net>]

You know, I hate(love) to make stupid comparisons, but Television with Fred
Smith was kind of like when Mick Taylor joined the Stones. They all of a
sudden just sounded great and were able to raise the musicianship and it's
the best rock band of all time. But with Brian Jones (or when Television had
Hell) they were great in an altogether different, anarchic way. Brian was
the original visionary who lost out, like Hell.
Yeah I know the comparison is silly as all hell(heh heh) since the Stones
made like a kajillion dollars and tons of timeless hits and non-hits in both
incarnations, whereas Television with Hell only made some demos and
piss-poor audience recordings, but they were nonetheless the greatest band
in the world (according to Hell) in their short incarnation, or slightly
longer if you include the Neon Boys.
And between the Buttons is my favorite Stones album (along with Flowers and
some of Aftermath especially "I Am Waiting").

Scott (US) 

> From: "Dennis" <dend@nyc.rr.com>
> Reply-To: tv@obbard.com
> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:26:10 -0500
> To: <tv@obbard.com>
> Subject: Re: (TV) Double Exposure vs. ...
> 
> I'm not sure proficient is the word to use to describe Richard's playing.
> But it certainly was interesting.
> I'm definitely a Fred Smith fan, as anyone that has heard me play can tell
> you, but I'm also a Richard Hell fan.
> Fred has told me he liked what Hell had done also. The band certainly
> tightened up with Fred playing bass though.
> 
> 
>> Richard Hell was too that proficient. Cool and thudding. Quine insists he
> is
>> the shit. And I agree, listening to the Voidoids. Also the way they play
>> Marquee Moon has a totally more primitive feel on Double Exposure,
> compared
>> to Fred Smith's version. Fred Smith is definitely the man for Tom
> Verlaine's
>> muse, but that's not saying that Richard Hell isn't an interesting player.
>> Different animal. Very funky and awkard, Richard was. Listen to the EP
>> version of Another World. Very proficient, I'd say. I'm listening to it
>> right now and it f-ing rocks. It's like Television playing 70's era
> Stones.
>> Also I think the two boots are the same versions.
>> 
>> Scott (US)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: "Brian Young" <raggedglory57@hotmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: tv@obbard.com
>>> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:55:24 -0800
>>> To: tv@obbard.com
>>> Subject: (TV) Double Exposure vs. ...
>>> 
>>> I am making a copy of the boot Double Exposure for a person on the
> Captain
>>> Beefheart list, and as I was listening to the first side, the Studio
> "1974"
>>> cuts do not sound like my other bootleg "Television with Bryan Eno" at
> all.
>>> The mix is way different, with the bass way more prominent and clear,
> and
>>> the versions don't even sound identical.  Does anyone have both of these
>>> boots, and have you done a comparison.  And no way is that Richard Hell
> on
>>> bass.  He was never that proficient.
>>> 
>>> I may have gotten Double Exposure from someone on this list.  The filler
> on
>>> this tape is a 1987 interview with Verlaine that starts out with 30
> seconds
>>> of French.  There are also 2 Flashlight  outtakes, "Smoother than Jones"
> and
>>> "Caveman/Flashlight".
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