Not NYC-punk / jock / RE: Quite a Statement / RE: (TV) OT: Luna & Dean Wareham

["Leo Casey" <LeoCasey@comcast.net>]

>the Stairway to Heaven of 70s NYC punk. Great, yes. But 
> played out.

I could say a lot more, but for now I'll l just go with that the song 'Marquee Moon ' is 
*not* NYC-punk, it's about as far away as you can get from that genre.

Not sure what you mean by the phrase 'played out' can you say more (do you mean played too
often)?

Also, quantity will never supersede quality.

So, what's Luna's equivalent to the album MM's song writing, lyrics, poetry, melodies, and
ideas.

My only problem with Luna is their stuff/sound has a 'sameness' to it and a lack of range. 
Verlaine can write play/write something as ferocious as 'See No Evil' and as 
beautiful and languid as 'Without A Word'.

However, nothing I can say or write is gonna convince you or anyone in your camp.  
So I'll just go with the old sophomoric school yard stuff:  As a guitar player--either
technique-wise 
or/and ability to connote emotional feeling--Dean Wareham couldn't carry T.V.'s jock strap 
(to paraphrase Rod Carew commenting on Reggie Jackson).  :> )

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tv-owner@obbard.com [mailto:tv-owner@obbard.com] On 
> Behalf Of Andrew
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 4:55 PM
> To: tv@obbard.com
> Subject: Re: Quite a Statement / RE: (TV) OT: Luna & Dean Wareham
> 
>  Well Leo, with list activity being at pretty much a ten-year 
> high I just
> thought I'd throw a cat in amongst the pigeons with that 
> statement and see if
> we can crash the server... :-)
> 
>  I'll go further and say that I think that taken as a whole 
> Luna's recorded
> output is superior to Television AND the Velvet Underground, 
> by virtue of
> there being so much more of it, most of at least an arguably 
> good standard.
> There are few bigger fans of Verlaine/Lloyd than I (and I'm 
> wagering they're
> all on this list) but for all the heights they reached it's a 
> crying pity that
> there's so damn little of it.  Whenever I have old friends 
> over for drinks on
> a rainy night they all groan "not again" whenever I put on 
> Marquee Moon.  It's
> the Stairway to Heaven of 70s NYC punk. Great, yes. But 
> played out. But my
> friends will all grin and nod like idiots when a Luna album 
> cut like Sideshow
> by the Seashore comes on. I truly believe that Wareham and 
> Sean Eden are
> criminally underappreciated as guitar players.
> Dean seems to be a polarizing figure with many and the haters 
> will all point
> to his obvious influences and say he ripped them off 
> (Television, the Velvets,
> the Feelies) or used them to lend some sort of legitimacy of 
> illusion of some
> sort of NY legacy to his band by having the likes of T.V. and Sterling
> Morrison play on Luna records.  They may have a point. But I 
> do know that I
> have only wept in near ecstasy at one band's concerts and it wasn't
> Television.
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