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Re: (TV) Re: Tom as a punk



--- On Sun, 5/1/11, Jesse Hochstadt <jesseh58@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Jesse Hochstadt <jesseh58@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (TV) Re: Tom as a punk
To: tv@obbard.com
Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 11:58 AM

The best thing you can do is to play the uninitiated some songs by the
musician
in question. Nowadays, if you own an mp3 player (which I don't), that's not
even
that hard. Leo, perhaps you'd have had more luck with those women if you'd
said:
"I'm doing a bad job describing Television. Why don't you come up to my
swinging
bachelor pad, sit on my revolving bed, and I'll show you my etchings" - I
mean,
"play you 'Marquee Moon.'"

Of course there's still the problem of choosing "representative" songs,
especially with someone like Thompson. And for the Mekons, I always say, "You
_really_ have to see them live."


- Jesse

Would this apply to Fugazi too?  Or is all 'hardcore' labeled in the
'lunkhead' category?  What about the album The Argument or the soundtrack to
The Instrument?  I guess people would be turned off because of their label as
hardcore when their later works are different than what people think of as
hardcore.

D.


----- Original Message ----
> From: Rex Broome <rexbroome@gmail.com>
> To: tv@obbard.com
> Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 2:15:58 PM
> Subject: Re: (TV) Re: Tom as a punk
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Jesse Hochstadt <jesseh58@yahoo.com> 
wrote:
>
> >
> > I generally find it hard to label almost any musical  performer(s) I like
> > when
> > someone asks me to describe them.  Calling Richard Thompson a folk-rocker
> > tells
> > you next to  nothing. Calling the Mekons or X punk bands tells you next
to
> > nothing.  My sense is that the easier it is to categorize a band or
> > musician,  the
> > less interesting they tend to be.
> >
>
> That's well  said.
>
> The lunkhead issue persists, though.  Richard Thompson's a  good example...
> if you're talking to someone who doesn't know who he is, it's  going to be
> tough.  Your options are basically to start with the term  "folk rock" and
> then endeavor to get more specific until their eyes glaze  over, or to say
> with greater or lesser candor, "Look, you're a lunkhead, and  if we
continue
> this discussion it's probably going to be quite frustrating  for both of
us.
>  Let's briefly discuss movies and find out if you're clueless  about film,
> too."
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