Re: (TV) Re: Tom as a punk

[Russ <russvr@gmail.com>]

Quite often bands outgrow the labels applied to them. Husker Du was
initially thought of as hard core and maybe they were for their first
album but they quickly were able to eschew that epithet. Bands that
change and grow are the most interesting of all.


On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 4:24 PM, postitnote <postitnote@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> --- On Sun, 5/1/11, Jesse Hochstadt <jesseh58@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: Jesse Hochstadt <jesseh58@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: (TV) Re: Tom as a punk
> To: tv@obbard.com
> Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 11:58 AM
>
> The best thing you can do is to play the uninitiated some songs by the
> musician
> in question. Nowadays, if you own an mp3 player (which I don't), that's not
> even
> that hard. Leo, perhaps you'd have had more luck with those women if you'd
> said:
> "I'm doing a bad job describing Television. Why don't you come up to my
> swinging
> bachelor pad, sit on my revolving bed, and I'll show you my etchings" - I
> mean,
> "play you 'Marquee Moon.'"
>
> Of course there's still the problem of choosing "representative" songs,
> especially with someone like Thompson. And for the Mekons, I always say, "You
> _really_ have to see them live."
>
>
> - Jesse
>
> Would this apply to Fugazi too?  Or is all 'hardcore' labeled in the
> 'lunkhead' category?  What about the album The Argument or the soundtrack to
> The Instrument?  I guess people would be turned off because of their label as
> hardcore when their later works are different than what people think of as
> hardcore.
>
> D.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Rex Broome <rexbroome@gmail.com>
>> To: tv@obbard.com
>> Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 2:15:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: (TV) Re: Tom as a punk
>>
>> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Jesse Hochstadt <jesseh58@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I generally find it hard to label almost any musical  performer(s) I like
>> > when
>> > someone asks me to describe them.  Calling Richard Thompson a folk-rocker
>> > tells
>> > you next to  nothing. Calling the Mekons or X punk bands tells you next
> to
>> > nothing.  My sense is that the easier it is to categorize a band or
>> > musician,  the
>> > less interesting they tend to be.
>> >
>>
>> That's well  said.
>>
>> The lunkhead issue persists, though.  Richard Thompson's a  good example...
>> if you're talking to someone who doesn't know who he is, it's  going to be
>> tough.  Your options are basically to start with the term  "folk rock" and
>> then endeavor to get more specific until their eyes glaze  over, or to say
>> with greater or lesser candor, "Look, you're a lunkhead, and  if we
> continue
>> this discussion it's probably going to be quite frustrating  for both of
> us.
>>  Let's briefly discuss movies and find out if you're clueless  about film,
>> too."
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